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How much does the cold really advance timing?

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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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How much does the cold really advance timing?

It seems in the winter I can't really run the Juice without it stumbling, cutting out or falling on it's face. I get best results by just running the Smarty on fueling only settings, no added timing. I guess it's pretty much common knowledge the effect that freezing temps have on advancing timing but anyone care to speculate just how much? Also, how many others are having similar issues? Thanks y'all
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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This talks about timing but it may not be what you're looking for. http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/FAQ/timing.htm
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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hmmm, interesting read. Hey I bleed orange too! 300 and 200 for me! Are ya on ktmtalk?
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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I'm not bleeding so much lately. Matter of fact, I haven't gone riding in so long that I think I'm all scabbed up. Haven't even bothered to get on any dirt bike forums in awhile because it just bums me out to much. 640 for me.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 1882
It seems in the winter I can't really run the Juice without it stumbling, cutting out or falling on it's face. I get best results by just running the Smarty on fueling only settings, no added timing. I guess it's pretty much common knowledge the effect that freezing temps have on advancing timing but anyone care to speculate just how much? Also, how many others are having similar issues? Thanks y'all

I run on Smarty #1 (very aggressive timing) with large M4 injectors all winter-- no stumbling or cutting out.

Not sure what the issue is, but I'd nominate the Juice.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Check your IAT for accuracy. If you have an exhaust brake, they're notorious for sooting up and reading wrong.
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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I ride a modded KDX in the woods, but out of the box a similar KTM would be pretty close. Nice bikes but a little spendy.
Im still recovering from a broken knee on my old WR400. highsided down a hill and pretzeled on a rock.

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I'm not bleeding so much lately. Matter of fact, I haven't gone riding in so long that I think I'm all scabbed up. Haven't even bothered to get on any dirt bike forums in awhile because it just bums me out to much. 640 for me.
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