FRANTZ bypass oil cleaner - USERS PLEASE READ
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FRANTZ bypass oil cleaner - USERS PLEASE READ
Hey,<br><br>I've noticed a few guys here use the Frantz TP filter. I was thinking I would get one. Now here's my question...<br><br>I have read some posts (elsewhere) by Frantz users that said that they never changed their oil after installation and had minimal engine wear if any. I understand that ALL of these stories are by gas engine drivers. Does the Frantz work well enought to do the same on my Cummins Turbo? I'm not being cheap, but I'd like to know how you users feel about this and what your experiences are.<br><br>ThankS
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my grandpa had a toilet paper filter on his truck for years<br><br>it was 1 74 chev with a straight 6 and a 4spd<br><br>he only changed oil twice a year, 10w30 for summer and 5w30 for winter ..once a month he changed the tp filter added a can of stp and topped up the oil<br><br>it was always clean when you pulled the dipstick ......he got a burnt valve in 89 after 250, 000 miles .decide to rebuild the motor .....**** thing looked like new inside other than the burnt valve. My dad , he's a mechanic, couldn't believe it......<br><br><br>so I guess they work ........I'd still change my oil regularly but the tp filter cleaning it sure can't hurt<br><br>I didn't know they were still made .....you got a web address ...I'll have to look into it<br><br>
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[quote author=Gary - KJ6Q link=board=8;threadid=13650;start=0#128844 date=1050535084]<br>And here's a shot of the oil on my dipstick at 3500 miles - Delo 400 15/40...<br>[/quote]<br><br>So.... do you change your oil or just top it off when you replace the tp? I mean, why change it if it's still like new, right?
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[quote author=Gary - KJ6Q link=board=8;threadid=13650;start=0#128844 date=1050535084]<br>And here's a shot of the oil on my dipstick at 3500 miles - Delo 400 15/40...<br>[/quote]<br><br>what oil?
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I usually put 5000-7000 miles on the oil, depending on season or use during a given oil change - winter and lotsa short drives, I'll change it more often than summer on longer freeway driving - I change the Frantz element at the mid-point - 2500-3500 miles or so, and add one quart of makeup oil - I don't much believe in extended oil drains, oil's cheaper than engines...
"What's the installtion like on the product and is it the same as a bypass filter?"
Installation took about 2 hours, and the frantz is not only the "same as" a bypass filter, it IS a bypass filter!
And then this:
"And here's a shot of the oil on my dipstick at 3500 miles - Delo 400 15/40...
what oil? "
UNHHHhh - yer kidding, right? What part of Delo 400 15/40 did I not explain properly? ;D ;D ;D
"What's the installtion like on the product and is it the same as a bypass filter?"
Installation took about 2 hours, and the frantz is not only the "same as" a bypass filter, it IS a bypass filter!
And then this:
"And here's a shot of the oil on my dipstick at 3500 miles - Delo 400 15/40...
what oil? "
UNHHHhh - yer kidding, right? What part of Delo 400 15/40 did I not explain properly? ;D ;D ;D
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For any interested in a detailed installation of my setup that might be adaptable to others, here's a pointer:<br><br>http://community.webshots.com/album/69907579dbmPiV<br><br>If the pointer doesn't work, use the one in my sig, and look in the Frantz filter section...
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Ok time for a really dumb question here ;D They call these things TP filters, now surely they don't use a standard TP in them?<br><br> Must be a special cartridge that just has the look of it.<br><br> Correct?
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This is from their website:
How am I supposed to Service my Frantz Oil Cleaner/Filter?
Always service your Frantz Oil Filter after your engine has been turned off for at least 1/2 hour. The steps to replace the TP Element are:
1. Remove the Clamp.
2. Pull off the Canister.
3. Remove the TP Element.
4. Replace with a clean new TP Element. TP must be 2 ply, 500 sheets per roll, for optimal performance. emphasis mine
5. Replace Canister.
6. Replace Clamp.
7. Top off your engine Oil Level:
(Usually a quart)
How am I supposed to Service my Frantz Oil Cleaner/Filter?
Always service your Frantz Oil Filter after your engine has been turned off for at least 1/2 hour. The steps to replace the TP Element are:
1. Remove the Clamp.
2. Pull off the Canister.
3. Remove the TP Element.
4. Replace with a clean new TP Element. TP must be 2 ply, 500 sheets per roll, for optimal performance. emphasis mine
5. Replace Canister.
6. Replace Clamp.
7. Top off your engine Oil Level:
(Usually a quart)
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Thanks Ed! <br> So then I would be not so bright to pay $14.00 for their 4 roll pak of refills then would I ;D<br><br> Rushes to Sam's warehouse and buys the 40 roll pack of "custom oil filters" for less than 12 bucks ;D <br><br> All kidding aside I would be concerned about the paper breaking down and entering the oil flow, apparently this does not occur but then isn't TP designed to break down easily?<br><br> Still I have heard many favorable comments on this set up, curious. A guy cant have oil that is TOO clean.
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I've wondered that myself Top. ???<br>Toilet tisse seems to fall apart when wet. ???<br>I'm curious how it filters and doesn't fall apart. ???
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"All kidding aside I would be concerned about the paper breaking down and entering the oil flow, apparently this does not occur but then isn't TP designed to break down easily?"
We're not filtering WATER, we're filtering OIL! ;D
Stop and think about it, MOST of the air, oil and fuel filters in engines are PAPER - yeah, treated, but PAPER just the same!
The myth of the TP material "breaking down" is a long-standing old wives tale - fact is soaking most papers in oil doesn't weaken them in the slightest - it's water that breaks many papers down - and there's really not that much water in engine oils, and in nearly 50 years use with TP filters, it's never been a problem - and I have a number of oil analysis reports to back that claim up.
I use the most dense single ply TP I can locate - similar to service rolls used in restaurants and service stations - I have found it important to FORCE the roll of TP into the Frantz canister as tightly as possible to hold the enclosed TP as tightly as possible to avoid "channeling" down thru the roll. There are plenty of brands out there for use that will do the job - certainly no need to use the "special" stuff Frantz sells at considerable price markup...
We're not filtering WATER, we're filtering OIL! ;D
Stop and think about it, MOST of the air, oil and fuel filters in engines are PAPER - yeah, treated, but PAPER just the same!
The myth of the TP material "breaking down" is a long-standing old wives tale - fact is soaking most papers in oil doesn't weaken them in the slightest - it's water that breaks many papers down - and there's really not that much water in engine oils, and in nearly 50 years use with TP filters, it's never been a problem - and I have a number of oil analysis reports to back that claim up.
I use the most dense single ply TP I can locate - similar to service rolls used in restaurants and service stations - I have found it important to FORCE the roll of TP into the Frantz canister as tightly as possible to hold the enclosed TP as tightly as possible to avoid "channeling" down thru the roll. There are plenty of brands out there for use that will do the job - certainly no need to use the "special" stuff Frantz sells at considerable price markup...