okay so I've done all my homework and maxed out all my factory parts with exception to the fuel plate. After all the reading I have done I feel comfortable where the truck is set at to maintain safe operating limits of all the equipment on board and still extract all the usable horsepower I can squeeze from her.

Now it's time to raise the bar a little. Just paid off the trans and am ready for the next stage....

1. I want to add injectors, DV's, etc, etc, but I don't think my pump is the best foundation for my desired results. I am searching for a 215 pump to use over my 160, unless opinions dictate otherwise that a 160 pump can still deliver moderate power. By moderate I mean somewhere in the neighborhood of 450-500 hp.

2. I want to upgrade chargers... Looking at the Aurora 3000 by ATS. Lot's of people swear by it's low spool up and 50 psi capabilities Want to maintain good spool, but have impressive boost as well to support the fuel and keep the EGT's in check. Was originally sold on a 35/40 but my indecision is making it tough. More opinions please!!

My goals and intentions......This is primarily a sport driven truck, but my other disease is boats, and I do pull a 12k lb'er 3 miles a couple of times a month to the boat ramp. Just a small short grade, and the loud pedal can control the temps if necessary. Mostly it's a pride thing....I was formerly a gasoline guzzling motorhead before I swallered a quart or two of #2 and fell victim to the highly contagious disease of diesel performance. Several of the tuner boys are getting big heads about their little pocket rockets and nothin burns em up more than staging a traffic light with me.........you know, they chuckle a little, "ahh it's just a diesel".......then you pop her in 4HI, brake the trans, spool her up to 1800, set the controller to 8 mile lock-up and wait fer the green. As they are awestruck by the twin 5 inchers belching black, the stuffer screaming for mercy, the truck nearly twisted in half, the light goes green. Before they know it they have to turn on the radar to find the road, and don't have a chance at catching up, especially because I sucked off their front end and most of their turbo plumbing when I unleashed the cummins mill.

CAN I HAVE A HALLELUJAH PLEASE!!

Well, they've caught on, and credit cards are flyin and the NOS, METH, SAFC's, and huge tinyturbos are on their way in on the next few jet birds. Sooooo, the pride thing just won't let them get an edge....time to raise the stakes a little (or a lot).

Now you know my intentions. I might add, I do drive this thing 300 miles a week for work, and it's also the household lumber gitter......so it won't fall into that "strip" category....'till I can get a second one anyway.

So let the opinions and recommendations rip......

Thanks for the info in advance.

 

Right on!! Sounds like you are having fun smokin' ricers. I don't have alot of experience with the different pumps but I have the stock 160 on my 94 and this truck is a monster!! I can provide more than enough fuel to do just about whatever I want and have smoked my fair share of gas trucks (yes, hemi's too!). See my sig for the mods. The 190 delivery valves made a big difference. This thing is having no trouble keeping up to other vehicles that are running high 14's - and this is with stock injectors! I have never been on a dyno but have been up against similar trucks that have and I would conservatively estimate it is pumping out 350 hp. I know you are looking for more power than this but I think the 160 pump with a bigger injector and turbo would likely get you to 450 hp.

With the stock turbo I am not far off 50 psi of boost. I just have to watch my egts when I tow heavy - you can control it with your right foot.

My combo works great for me as I drive my truck everyday and has been reliable and still gets awesome mileage.

Anymore power and I would be in for a tranny and a bigger turbo.

It is surprising to see how many people get 400 hp with so little - what is more surprising is how few can keep their egt's down to actually use the power.

Good luck with your bombs and keep us posted on how it is going.

 

You can have the pump sent off to a reputible pump shop and have it calibrated and rack travel adjusted. In stock form your pump has an output of 170ccs per 1000 strokes. They can be tuned to ~400ccs without changing barrels and plungers (CDS offer 800,1100 and 1300cc pumps). You would benefit from 191 delivery valves and increased timing. While the pump is off the truck, have the shop install either a 3000 rpm or 4000 rpm governor spring kit(this one requires 60# valve springs). There are ones available to spin faster, but each of these kits offer a good operating range.
As far as turbos go, there are a plethora of options. There are numerous moderate hp trucks (500hp) running the Piers HX40 with success. Then there are compound turbos...
Injector options are now larger than ever. A few years ago 12 valvers were opting for the marine 370hp injectors. There are plenty of moderate hp trucks running these, however in my experience, they like to smoke. A pro to them is they are inexpensive and get results. There are at least three vendors offering EDM injectors. These give the power you want with less smoke, but the downside is they are pricey.
Reputible pump shops that I would recommend are Scheid Diesel(my preferred one),Columbus Diesel Supply, and Piers Diesel Research
Give them a call; tell them what your goals are and they can point you in the right direction.

 

I would recomend calling JR Adkins. He had DV, Injector, and Turbo options that will address your needs.

317-281-3130

 

cuminspwr, who are the 3 vendors you are referring to offering EDMs? Vaughn

 

Vaughn: Buddha, F1, Mass Diesel (not sure if they are done in-house or if they are just a distrubutor).

 

Add JR Adkins to that list.

 

Thanks guys for all the advice and views. Sounds kind of like what I had in mind. Still in the air on turbos. $$ tells me to go with a single, but I REALLY want compounds. Hmmmmm...............all of life's decisions .

If I were to go with a single until I can steal a pair under the wife's nose, what is a good compromise between quick spool up and top end air VOLUME?? Are there any hybrids that would accomplish this? I am worried the 40 compressor regardless of the turbine size might not be big enough. ATS claims 50psi and a high volume out of their Aurora 3000. Anyone running one of these yet?? Or is it more "hot off the press stuff"?

Fuel plates.....was pretty sold on a 10 because I understand it can be set aggressive or mild...your choice. Curently I run a DIY #0, but after injectors, DV's etc, I might have a hard time with EGT's. I definitely want as aggressive of a plate as I can run with big injectors, DV's and a respectable single charger. Can a #10 be set to get 450 horse, or should I be set with the #0 as long as I can move the air with a single to control the temps??

Thanks.......Chris

 

"CAN I HAVE A HALLELUJAH PLEASE!!"

Nothing like a CTD owner on a mission, now is there! Time to watch the "Blues Brothers" again! Something about a full tank of gas and half pack of cigarettes...or was that the other way around?

If you go the compromise route now on the turbo, the odds are that you will not be able to use it as it sits in a twins arrangement. Maybe parts of it, but not all of it. Something to consider. Cheaper to do the twins right off of the bat, but then I know how the financial arrangements in a proper, well balanced and maintained long term committed relationship can go. Yessiree, married here as well!

I would also encourage you to speak with JR Adkins as Ryan has mentioned.

Matt

 

Okay, I realize that my 7550 pound pickup will never run in the 11 second bracket like my big block '62, but I'd like it to be able to soundly slay most stock gas pickups. Being that my truck is a 4X4 and a dually with 7550 pounds to push, is that asking too much without breaking the bank? I have a 3000 GSK kit in hand, but the problem is that that hand is broken. Literally. Don't ask, no good story there. I may have to hire out that job because I don't want to wait 6 weeks. Anyway, my real question is if I stash away enough $'s for twins, am I going to blow my head off? Well, not my own head, my truck's. How much of a turbo, and what kind of turbo(s) can I put on without having to do the O ring thing and new head studs? I'm thinking about taking it up to Sheid's in Terre Haute for this upgrade. Lots of question. I know. Oh yeah, how much should I expect to pay for a good single vs twins? Also, am I pushing for too much with the weight issue?

 

Hey gsdog1, I just noticed that you are from Greencastle. I got to visit the Greencastle jail once many moons ago when I was going to college just up the road from your town. I'm admitting nothing, but it was over a big "W" in your college's football field.

 

HA! I am actually a transplant here myself. Did you get to visit the old jail downtown, or the renovated version on the South side?!

FWIW - if you are gonna run any kind of decent twins set-up, headwork is a necessity, IMHO. That's the big next step for me: rings, P&P head, studs....then a not so small primary goes under the hood!

You gonna come up to Scheid's hoopla in August?

Also, you will wanna touch base with JR as Ryan and I have alluded to above. He and Ryan are from Mooresville. That close proximity has been really dangerous for me!

Matt

 

I would have to say it must have been the old jail. Fortunately I wasn't there long, but it certianly wasn't very nice.
I'm going to call Sheid on Wed. when I get back in town from a business trip to CA and get shocked on what twins would cost me. I assume Sheid would do twins? I do intend to try to make it to their show etc. in August.

 

Scheid can do them, and so can JR.

Should see you in August then! We'll avoid the Terre Haute Cross Bar Motel though, huh!?

Matt