i put in a 3k kit last night, in a buddies truck. this is my 5th kit to put in. all the other kits were pretty easy to do this one was a major pita. the springs in this kit were about .100 taller than the stock springs, so forget just giving it 2 clicks, past the top. it was so hard to get it down to the stock stud protruision that i was for sure the springs were in a bind. i pulled it apart a few times double checking to make sure everything was seated right. i finally muscled them down, it bet it took 10 or 12 clicks to get them at the right height.
has anyone else run it to this? i have bought all of my rpm kits from piers and never had this happen before. the truck runs out great, and the owner could not be happier, but what a pita. mike

 

Didn't accidently leave a few shims in?

 

I did run into this when i put the spring spacer on the wrong side (TOP). I couldnt get it to crank down without using alot of force. I have done them several times myself...but i installed that one wrong. I would go back and check.

 

i pulled it apart twice last night to be sure i had removed all the shims. and made sure that all the springs were put in right. the only thing i could find different was the spring height. and i had installed the spacer correctly, i am just curious if anyone else has run into this on the later spring kits.

 

Keep us updated, I ordered one for my dad's 96 and I am going to install it on the 29th.

 

the work great, but they were a pita to put in

 

you got the slot lined up on the top spring retainer didnt you.I put my 4gsk in last night and it took 2 or 3 clicks was all

 

uh...another suggestion....i had to wiggle the crap out of the springs to seat them totaly and even the top retainer with the square"ish" Slot in it that the nut sits in. It went down all the way......did you remove all the spring it asked to remove? I think you leave the outter (Large one) in and take the rest out. My average is about 4.5-5 turns of the nut (or untill i get 2 positive clicks at the end)

 

i installed mine all at the same time,all stacked on the bottom retainer ,it seemed the easiest way to get them in ther.you might try that and make sure that slot is lined up on the top retainer

 

Just installed my 3k kit a couple days ago. Went in easy. Measured distance from top of stud to spring retainter (like it says in instructions) and reassembled new springs with the same distance. Only got maby one good click. The stock springs were about the same way, seems shady, do they ever come loose? Also, idle seemed a little lower, not higher like they say in the instructions.
thanks, Matt

 

some one else needs to measure the spring height, these just seemed longer than the other sets i put in. and the top retainer was in the slot right.

 

I installed the 3K GSK from Peirs this weekend. The instructions say remove ALL of the shims and reuse the large spring. I took out all of the springs and the lower seats and the two shims one is the base shim (large OD small ID) and the one that sits under the large spring (Shim is large OD and large ID.) See the pic in my gallery. Called Peirs this morning they said "leave in the large spring shim" DANG ! Anyway after I got it all together it would not idle. I went back in and tightened the retainer two clicks each. The RPMS at idle were about 200 low. I bumped the idel screw and that did the trick. RUNS GREAT !!!!!! Apologize for the long post but thought it might help. Any questions feel free to PM me. I have a bunch of pics to share also. It was all pretty intimidating but after it was done not that bad at all. My mind always plays out the worst case scenario.

 

i never mess with the big spring [idle] i just leave it where it was. i just ordered another gsk from piers this morning for another truck. i will take some measurements this time, as in i won't need the truck in a couple of hours.

 

Gunracer1,
I would take another look at the govenor if the retainer nut was hard to start. It sounds like you only got 1/2 of the 2 piece stock spring base out or there is shims still stuck to the base of the governor weights or you possible put our spring base in up side down?

3000gsk or 4000gsk is pretty simple install whether you go in from the top of the pump or the side port. If you go into the side port, it helps to loosen and slide the pumps start/stop lever outwards from the pump slightly but not to far as the shaft has a keyway indexing the lever to the shaft (not start/stop solinoid). This will allow the side port cover to be removed without difficulty as lever is slightly in the way. Booth require you to measure the distance from the top of the govenor stud to the top of the retainer nut (not in the groove of the retainer nut. On average it should be close to .050" give or take .010". Make sure the calipers are square to the shaft and nut or your measurement will be off by as much a .010".
Now remove nut with flat head screw driver and count the clicks while backing out (will come in handy for speeding up reinstall later and use magnet on nut for the final threads) now remove retainer with magnet also so as not to drop anything in pump or ground.

3000 and 4000gsk requires you to remove all springs but the largest spring (idle spring). Now use a pencil magnet to remove the 2 piece spring base and see if there is any shims under the base with the magnet with out removing the large spring. If you have none or one or some on one side and none on the other side of the govenor don't sweat it, just remove them.
Install our one piece spring base and 1/2 of the springs in our kit ( 3000gsk will have 2 med springs and 2 smaller springs and the 4000gsk is the same plus 2 tiny springs). DON'T use the stock spring base or any of the stock springs or shims other than the largest spring whether it has a shim under it or not. Reinstall the stock spring retainer and tighten back on the retainer nut to the approx amount of clicks it took to get off. Measure and adjust nut if nesassary to get it back to the original measurement. Each click of the retainer nut is approx .017".
Once you are sure you are close to the stock factory measurement, rotate the engine over by the 22mm alternator nut by socket and not by the starter (more than one person ended up doing the same side of the govenor twice )
Repeat on last side of govenor.
Your idle should be a little fast and need to be turned down if done right. Low idle usually indicates one or more clicks too loose!! Higher than 200rpms indicates one or more clicks too tight!!

Mark
PDR

 

mark i am very familiar with the install, i have done a few all ready. and i have always done them exactly how you said. but this set was different, the springs were right at .100 taller than the stock springs, so counting the clicks was a total waste of time. i always use the alternator nut to spin the motor over or a barring tool just to be sure.