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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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Stash Spots

All you 2nd Gen truck owners,,,

I would like to know where your stash spots are. I used to wedge my .45 between the drivers and middle seat, but I got to thinking that some fo you guys might have some better ideas.

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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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IMHO this stuff should be on the man, not in the truck. If you are forced to leave the truck by somebody, you won't be able to get the gun out of your truck. You will have supplied the guy with an additional arm, and you'll be out there in a nasty neighbourhood unarmed.

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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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I must agree with Alpine.
My "stash spot" for my legally carried "buddy" is in it's holster, on my belt.

I try to stay aware of my surroundings to avoid being put in a position to need to bring that into play.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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Got to agree with AlpineRam and Shovelhead, tuck mine next to the cell phone. Hope the phone is the only thing I have to pull out.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Although I have to agree with Alpine and Ed,
sometimes it's quite uncomfortable tucked in the belt for long drives.

I utilize the map pockets in the driver side door while driving.

Also hope I never need it.


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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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IMHO the only place for it if its not attached to ur side is locked up whether it be in a car safe or home safe.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by DF5152
IMHO the only place for it if its not attached to ur side is locked up whether it be in a car safe or home safe.
If that is where I had to keep it, it would be useless for self defense. If you own one and that is where you keep it what good is it when someone is trying to do you or a loved one harm. I think I'll keep mine with me where I can save myself or a loved one if needed. Just giving them what they want doesn't work any more, they want to kill and maim (just listen to the news) and I for one want at least a chance.
I'll get off my soapbox now.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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If that is where I had to keep it, it would be useless for self defense. If you own one and that is where you keep it what good is it when someone is trying to do you or a loved one harm. I think I'll keep mine with me where I can save myself or a loved one if needed. Just giving them what they want doesn't work any more, they want to kill and maim (just listen to the news) and I for one want at least a chance.
I'll get off my soapbox now.
I didnt say to leave it locked up I said if it is not holstered on your person it should be locked up....statstically more people are killed with there own guns then some one elses...and when yours gets stolen because you failed to safeguard it then it becomes my problemn (not directed at you personally)
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 12:26 AM
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....statstically more people are killed with there own guns then some one elses...
Now don't get upset but.....I'd like to see those statistics because I've got to think that is propaganda. I guess it is possible if you count the morons that shoot themselves while cleaning their guns and the ones that commit suicide and hunting accidents but in those cases the argument of locking them up doesn't work, they've got the key and they already unlocked them. I would have to believe the number of people that have their gun taken from them and then are shot with it is extremely low.

Now on the other hand my hand guns are locked up because I have a 3 year old in the house, and the ammo is not anywhere near the guns. I use to leave my hand guns in the nightstand though and carried one in my truck all the time but not now. I always have a knife with me though and there is a good chance that one way or another you'd loose some blood if you come into my house un-welcome. My 2 cents

As for a stash spot I used to have a light weight clip on holster that I put in the map pouch in the door, that way it was upright and there for easy grabbing.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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That is why I like my little OMC Backup. It's only .380 but it stays in my jeans back pocket. Only place that I normally go that it is illegal is Tennessee. The new Alabama recipical permits are really great. I have a stach spot on the trailer for states I may go where it is illegal.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 11:35 PM
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This is a topic that I ponder quite often since I belong to www.glocktalk.com and there are frequently topics such as this in the Carry Issues forum. I highly recommend you check it out and even register if the mood strikes you. You don't even have to own a GLOCK--quite a few people there don't.

Anyway, to try and address your question directly, it really depends on how your interior is laid out. While I believe that having your pistol locked in a box while you're in the vehicle makes it next to useless in a real world encounter, I AM a firm believer that the pistol should be in some type of holster that covers the trigger guard at all times. This isn't hard to do.

Sidearmor (www.sidearmor.com) makes a Hard Point Attachment for their Modular OWB (Outside Waist Band) Holster. Yes it's pricey but Sidearmor makes excellent products and it is well worth it to prevent a possible ND (Negligent Discharge) and to possibly save your life by having your pistol easily accessible. You can read a little about it HERE. Here are some pictures of the holster mounted in a Jeep:



Another option that doesn't look as promising to me is the Fobus Universal Mount seen HERE. Note that the $35 price doesn't include the holster--it's just for the mount.

Anyway, some more reading on this subject can be found here:

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread....ght=hard+point

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread....ght=hard+point

As for when you step OUTSIDE of the car, your best bet is going to be carrying the pistol on your person (legally, of course), but if you must leave it in the car for whatever reason (illegal to carry in a certain establishment that you MUST patronize), I recommend the safes at www.handgunsafe.com. They have a really good Simplex lock mechanism and don't require any batteries.

I just recently switched from a Ford pickup to my Dodge so I have yet to think out exactly how I'm going to set things up, but since I no longer have a center console (bench seat w/the fold-down console), I'll probably have to get a safe from Handgunsafe.com that goes under the driver's seat. Does anybody know if the plastic tray can be forcefully removed from the fold-down center console to afford more storage space (possibly for one of these safes)?
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Heavy Double D
Now don't get upset but.....I'd like to see those statistics because I've got to think that is propaganda. I guess it is possible if you count the morons that shoot themselves while cleaning their guns and the ones that commit suicide and hunting accidents but in those cases the argument of locking them up doesn't work, they've got the key and they already unlocked them. I would have to believe the number of people that have their gun taken from them and then are shot with it is extremely low.
I'd have to agree. We hurt ourselves when we parrot the propaganda created by the antis.

But then, I don't have any guns
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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Here is some good reading on this subject: http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Am...by_firearm.htm
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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It depends on what I'm doing. Around here and back and forth to my place in the country, I leave my Beretta 25 (Hydro Shocks) in my console in a Crown Royal bag. It's easy to get to and is pretty nasty up close. When out-and-about in the public, not all the time, but some places, I carry a Mac 380 (Hydro Shocks also) somewhere on my person. When I travel, it's the SW 44 (also with Hydro Shocks) under a towel within easy reach in the back seat.

I have a permit, and believe what they told me in training. Only use it if you have to, and if you do....don't fool around, "Tak'em Out"!

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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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statistically more people are killed with there own guns then some one elses
I am a career student, and am still attending school working on a 2nd Bachelor's and a Master's. I did a short paper a little more than a year ago about guns used for home defense, also inculding some information on accidental shooting deaths.

The period I used for my research was a five year window from 1997-2001. I don't remember the exact numbers, but if I find them I will post them. Basically, there were 5 times more cases where the attacker or intruder was killed with the defensible party's weapon than cases where the attacker or intruder used the victim's weapon to kill the victim. The numbers were not huge - less than 1,000 defensible shootings over the 5 year period.

The scariest statistic of all was that there were more than 5 times as many accidental deaths from a gunshot than there were defensible shootings.

So the numbers say that the chance of being shot by an attacker with your own gun are extremely remote. This is a common myth which is completely non-factual.

But the numbers also also say that the chances of someone in your family being killed accidentally far outweigh the likelihood of you defending them or yourself against an attacker.

Don't get me wrong, I own and carry firearms. I just thought the stats were something worth noting.
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