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Originally posted by Paul C
$32.60 nonunion neverwill be.
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Is that in addition to Health Care??


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TO. Dr. Evil
Yes. Also I think that Unions have helped in some ways. I just don't need them personally.

 

If everyone made an average wage of $15 an hour, goods would come down in price. There would not be a higher paid group that was willing to pay, thus driving the prices down.

OH NO! I sound like a Democrate!




CR

 

Nice concept - but I highly doubt thats ever gonna happen.....prices seem to go higher and higher with every day.....up here, a CTD is around 48-54k + tax...where will it ever end??

 

I didn't say I or we where not making a NICE decent wage, we are, it's just that my wife and I are not getting rich off the backs of the guys in the shop. We make a good living, and are still able to buy new tools and equipment for the shop, within reason, when they are needed. What's wrong with walking by a guy and slipping a C note in his hand on a Friday and tell him to take his wife to dinner, because he busted his butt all week. The $ is great, but you can't take it with you when you go. We're comfortable, got food to eat, the bills and taxes are paid and still have money to play with. Life is good

 

While there is a lot of corporate greed out there, one of the reasons for a lot of companies folding and going abroad can be found in your very own home. You want the cheapest goods you can buy and if you have stocks, you want the most on your return. This equasion will only stay positive for a certain time and then it goes negative and the company moves on.
Companies are forced to cut costs to compete with the goods that are made by people who work for dollars a day instead of dollars per hour. Throwing out the greed factor, the company can only cut so much in the way of expenses (costs, salaries, etc) before they can no longer operate profitably. That means either fold or go elsewhere where expenses are cheaper.
The budget guys came into my company last year at both sites and said if you want to make earnings this year, you need to cut this much from the budget. So what do they do, they eliminate 10 positions at each site. Twenty guys with years and years of service flushed right out the gate in one day.
Now, how you tie this post to Unions is up to you and I will not comment there. I'm sure someone will have opposing views but I have been watching this going elsewhere thing since Quasar (remember the Works in a Drawer TV company) folded in California and went across the border to Mexico years and years ago.
My question is, how long can this go on? You can't buy a $40,000 dollar Dodge diesel making minimum wage. Who is left to buy the high dollar items when the people that make them are all in other countries?

 

Truth is you can not buy a new Dodge making 10.00 dollars an hour. There is nothing we can do about buying practices or corporate labor pools. Our whole economic system is set up with the basic principle of supply and demand. In this system, all sales are driven by competition. This competition makes all products compete on price, and and quality takes a back seat. Look at any small town where a walmart opened it's doors. They are so large they can go to any town and sell products at a loss, till all competition has folded. Unfortunately that means all the mom and pop stores get run out of business, they can not compete with the large retailers. Even though the small stores offered expertise and personal touch, the buying public went elsewhere to save a few dollars. Even if it meant a lack of customer service. Sad to say that not many people look to buy American, truth is the whole issue of what is American has gotten foggy. Is Ford any more American then Mazda, they are owned by the same people? How about Dodge? They are owned by the German company MB. Is your Dodge truck an American vehicle? Lets see it is owned by a German company and assembled in Mexico. The engine is from Columbus Indiana, manual trans from Germany, tires from china of Philippines. I guess we are more then just headed toward a global community? More in line with a one government society. It has gotten to the point that our flag, yes the starts and strips are not even made in the US. That is pathetic, I don't think Washington and the rest of our founding fathers foresaw this as the future.