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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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Angry This really smokes me!

They join and get all the perks till it's time to do the Job.
In the Military our job was to break things and Kill people, did they not know that?
GRRRRRRRRRRRR
Facing Iraq duty, two U.S. G.I.'s head north to seek asylum
Soldiers Choose Canada
by Alisa Solomon
April 6th, 2004 11:00 AM




TORONTO—Army private Brandon Hughey got in his silver Mustang around midnight on March 2, rolled past the gates at Fort Hood in Texas, and headed northeast. All he had to guide him was a deepening dread and principled objection to the war in Iraq and a promise of help from a complete stranger he'd found on the Internet. His unit was deploying to the Middle East the next morning and, as Hughey, 18, wrote in a February 29 e-mail to the stranger, an anti-war activist, "I do not want to be a pawn in the government's war for oil, and have told my superiors that I want out of the military. They are not willing to chapter me out and tell me that I have no choice but to pack my bags and get ready to go to Iraq. This has led me to feel hopeless and I have thought about suicide several times."

His heart pounding to the hip-hop beat on his radio, Hughey drove for 17 hours straight, keeping an anxious eye on the speedometer, panicked that he might get pulled over. The activist met him on March 4 in southern Indiana, stashed the Mustang (with Hughey's dog tags in the trunk) in Indianapolis, and took the wheel behind his own car for a 500-mile trip to the bridge at Niagara Falls. He gave Hughey a New York Knicks cap to pull on over his crew cut so the guards at the Canadian border would believe they were on their way to see a Toronto Raptors game.

Hughey did watch New York shut down Toronto in a fourth-quarter comeback that night—but on TV from St. Catharines, Ontario, where a Quaker couple has taken him in. He is the second American soldier who opposes the war to have applied for refugee status in Canada. As the occupation in Iraq drags on, morale among soldiers plummets, and talk of a post-election draft heats up, their cases will determine whether Canada will once again welcome young Americans resisting a questionable war.

see the whole article here.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0414/solomon.php


Should we do a roud up?
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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If that kid thinks an APB was going to get out on him that quick, much less, even a warrant and entry into NCIC, then he is really skewed and self-absorbed. Let'em go he'd just be a liability anyway. I wouldn't want to fight next to him. Besides, if he's in Canada, my taxes won't be sustaining him in jail or the unemployment line.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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If that kid thinks an APB was going to get out on him that quick, much less, even a warrant and entry into NCIC, then he is really skewed and self-absorbed. Let'em go he'd just be a liability anyway. I wouldn't want to fight next to him. Besides, if he's in Canada, my taxes won't be sustaining him in jail or the unemployment line.
Good point but 20 years at hard labor would be ok too
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Re: This really smokes me!

Originally posted by ramlovingvet
.............and talk of a post-election draft heats up,

I guess I have not been keeping up, but I have not heard anything about this.


Next to snakes, war scares the heck outa me. The thought of it makes me upset at my stomach. That is why I did not joint he military. It takes a special person to do that, and I have the utmost respect for every soldier there ever was. Its just not for me. BUT, if I am called upon to serve against my will, I will do it, and I wont run from it.

About the AWOL's, they knew what they were getting into. If they cant handle it, then they should not have joined. They werent forced into it.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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If that kid thinks an APB was going to get out on him that quick, much less, even a warrant and entry into NCIC, then he is really skewed and self-absorbed. Let'em go he'd just be a liability anyway. I wouldn't want to fight next to him. Besides, if he's in Canada, my taxes won't be sustaining him in jail or the unemployment line.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Redleg
I wouldn't want to fight next to him. Besides, if he's in Canada, my taxes won't be sustaining him in jail or the unemployment line.
2 very good points Redlege

He would probly be like the little guy in "saving private ryan" that carries the .50cal bullets and lets his friends die in that upstairs appartment in germany when he could have saved them........whew that took some breath....lol.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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As a Canadian i can tell you that the Can. Govt. will NOT accept these cowards as refugees seeking political asylum. Two things have changed... since 911 the Immigration and refugee board have cracked down on immigrants and asylum seekers and the Paul Martin Federal govt. is trying to repair diplomatic relations between our two countries after the last idiot..er, i mean Prime minister botched things up. The last thing Canada wants is to tick off Bush again.
just my 2 cents.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Why not just put him in a rowboat with no rations and dump his sorry butt in the middle of the atlantic? BTW, no compass either. Tell him if he makes it back he can stay......If not........well........
Tom
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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How about we let him out of the Military as soon as he gives back all of the money we paid him to be a SOLDIER , and reimburses the US for all of his training expenses.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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Shoot him in the head.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by BigBlue
Shoot him in the head.
You never cease to amaze me.......
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by MedicShawn
How about we let him out of the Military as soon as he gives back all of the money we paid him to be a SOLDIER , and reimburses the US for all of his training expenses.
I agree but, add to that the money for time wasted, and for time to re-train somebody else. This is no different than being a parent. You can't 'back out' when it comes time to do something you don't like ie: spanking, time out, ect.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Palmetto_kid
You never cease to amaze me.......
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Besides, if he's in Canada, my taxes won't be sustaining him in jail or the unemployment line.
Hey, we dont want him....
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Quote from Brandon Hughey...

"That recruiter tricked me. I thought I was joining the Peace Corps..."
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