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Old May 8, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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Can police still shoot radar in the rain? During a sprinkle or a steady rain? <br>Anyone have any luck with the radar jammers? I have a friend with one and it seemed to work good in his car when we rolled through a speed trap but it didn't go off when he got pinched by Laser.<br>How about those plate covers to protect against Laser? Are they any good?<br> I use a police scanner and I can tell when they have set up a big speed trap...by all of the conversation.<br>Thanks alot!<br>
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Old May 8, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Yea, cops can and do use radar in the rain. The only differance is the effective range. Radar jammers are illegal period. So is your scanner. If you are authorized by your county sheriff you can have a scanner in your vehicle. As far as lazers, I have heard that the covers do work, but I don't know. Then again, radar detecters are illegal IF you are using them to circumvent the law. Now that the &quot;important&quot; stuff has been said, even with all the equipment in use, you WILL get caught eventually.
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Old May 8, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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Police scanners are only illegal in some states.<br>Some states require you to have valid HAM license to carry one.<br><br>Most states you can have one in your vehicle as long as it is for amusement purposes only.<br>If you use it for your own personal gain, then it becomes illegal.<br><br>I have had one in my vehicle for many years, even been pulled over and heard the officer calling my information in.<br>(they were looking for a brown nissan p/u, I had a red toyota )<br><br>I think the scanner will work a lot better than any of the radar/laser detectors/jammers out there, and as far as the license covers/stealth bras/stealth paint, it is snakeoil. IMHO<br><br><br>phox
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Old May 9, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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First of all, at least in Texas, it's not illegal to have a police scanner in your vehicle. You don't even have to have a license for it. <br><br>To answer your question about radar, as was said above, they will work just fine in the rain. The range isn't as good, but they still work.<br><br>Third, to my knowledge there is no protection against a laser. A laser detector is a waste of money because by the time it goes off the officer has already locked in your speed and decided if he's going to pull you over or not. <br><br>Third, if you're worried about tickets, the best thing you can do is not speed. After all, it IS against the law.
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Old May 9, 2003 | 07:59 AM
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Rain has much less effect on radar RF than laser. Atmospheric absorption is higher in that portion of the spectrum. The reason your bud got nailed by the Laser is that the beamwidth is so narrow, and by the time you get a detection, you’ve already been targeted. &quot;too late&quot;<br><br>I’ve had some experience with jammers; but its been with Electronic Warfare systems designed to defeat enemy missiles. For use in cars and trucks on US highways? There are many laws that are written to prevent active RF transmission from private and public vehicles to engage and defeat police radar. You can’t buy them on the public market. And some states even have laws expressely prohibiting the use of radar detectors.<br> <br>Plate covers. Reducing RCS (radar cross section) is a very good technique to minimize radar detection; and covering vehicles with an absorbent material is also a good technique to minimize laser and radar detection. And they are a passive capability, so you can buy some of those things. It’s not snakeoil, but you have to look at your entire platform (car or truck) as a system. To do it right, its usually an all-or-nothing proposition. Front license plates are terrific reflectors for radar and lasers. Acting like a mirror, they can and will reflect the RF energy very good with no scattering if mounted flat and straight ahead. Mounting that plate on the front of a cab-over diesel tractor will have no net improvement in reducing the RCS; mounting it on the front of a Corvette will yield better results. But, its been common knowledge for years, for Vettes anyways, the best thing they could do to minimize RCS is to remove those Chevy#1 front plates and run with nothing up front. On a boxy pickup truck? I wouldn’t waste the money.<br>
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Old May 9, 2003 | 08:08 AM
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[quote author=bulabula link=board=10;threadid=14533;start=0#136474 date=1052485154]<br>Plate covers. Reducing RCS (radar cross section) is a very good technique to minimize radar detection; and covering vehicles with an absorbent material is also a good technique to minimize laser and radar detection. And they are a passive capability, so you can buy some of those things. It’s not snakeoil, but you have to look at your entire platform (car or truck) as a system. To do it right, its usually an all-or-nothing proposition. Front license plates are terrific reflectors for radar and lasers. Acting like a mirror, they can and will reflect the RF energy very good with no scattering if mounted flat and straight ahead. Mounting that plate on the front of a cab-over diesel tractor will have no net improvement in reducing the RCS; mounting it on the front of a Corvette will yield better results. But, its been common knowledge for years, for Vettes anyways, the best thing they could do to minimize RCS is to remove those Chevy#1 front plates and run with nothing up front. On a boxy pickup truck? I wouldn’t waste the money.[/quote]<br><br>Well...you learn something new every day. However...removing your front plate in Texas only gives police a reason to pull you over and write you a ticket. Texas requires plates on both the front and rear of the vehicle...and it is enforced. I know two people who have been pulled over and handed tickets for not having a front license plate.
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Old May 9, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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[quote author=Hoss link=board=10;threadid=14533;start=0#136478 date=1052485700]<br>...removing your front plate in Texas only gives police a reason to pull you over and write you a ticket. Texas requires plates on both the front and rear of the vehicle...and it is enforced.[/quote]<br><br>Same goes here in MD
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Old May 9, 2003 | 08:21 AM
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I folded my plate in half and have it in the front bumper in one of the slots next to the fog lights. ;D
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Old May 9, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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I used to run the CB and radar detectors many years ago, and they weren't that effective; entertaining yes, but not very effective. The best way to avoid tickets is drive within the speed limits. Although some states have a &quot;no tolerance&quot; policy, many have a 5 - 10 mph tolerance. At a posted speed limit of 70, that equates to 75 - 80 mph before getting pulled over for speeding. For most interstate highway travel that should be about the top safe speed considering traffic, road design (these are not race course surfaces), weather conditions, etc. Having said that, I no longer use any type of device to avoid radar or speed traps, since I travel within posted speed limits - I guess that comes with age or something, but after the &quot;Carter years&quot; of 55 mph with the speed limits back up at 65 - 70, I see no value in spending money for electronic devices and such and eventually getting a ticket anyway. I'll step off the soapbox now. Sorry.
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Old May 9, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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One of the best radar detectors that I have found is also the cheapest.<br><br>Watch the drivers a 1/4 mile or so in front of you instead of &quot;target fixation&quot; on the vehicle right in front of you.<br><br>You'll see them hit their brakes as they spot the officer sitting on the side of the road. <br><br>Yes I do still have a CB as &quot;Early Warning&quot; and back-up avoidance.
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Old May 9, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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Can anyone post a good place to learn CB talk? I have my radio licence for my pilots licence but Im not aware of how to talk on a CB? Do you speak the same way? I have heard lots of swearing on a CB before that is illeagal in an aircraft. Im just not sure of the rules and what channels to use.
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Old May 9, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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I think a good rule of thumb when talking on CB is &quot;open mouth and insert foot&quot;. At least thats what I've seen.
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Old May 9, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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[quote author=Jamie Attridge link=board=10;threadid=14533;start=0#136492 date=1052488260]
Can anyone post a good place to learn CB talk? I have my radio licence for my pilots licence but Im not aware of how to talk on a CB? Do you speak the same way? I have heard lots of swearing on a CB before that is illeagal in an aircraft. Im just not sure of the rules and what channels to use.
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Turn it to Channel 19...speak slaughtered English....throw in lots of cussing....do a little talk about &quot;local yocals&quot;, &quot;black &amp; whites&quot; and &quot;county bounties&quot;....and don't forget the 68 year old prostitute at the truck stop...and you'll fit right in. :
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Old May 9, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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Watch the Fox program &quot;King of the Hill&quot;<br>record the voice of the character Boomhauer.<br><br>Practice, practice practice. you'll fit right in.
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