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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxom
Gotten a bit off topic.

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Fact is, sometimes it IS merely about the revenue and NOT safety.
Show me some proof on that. I'd like to see you guys back up some of these statements. Until then, it's merely an opinion without merit.

Could someone explain to me how it is less safe in MI than OH or IN on the interstate hwy system. Merely crossing an imaginary line is suddenly more dangerous and therefore we must reduce the speed that trucks are allowed to drive.
Well guess what? States have a right to set the speed limit to a number they feel is the highest safe speed for a particular stretch of road. It's really that simple.

I'll not even get into the split speed limit discussion.
The why bring it up?
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxom
Gotten a bit off topic.

However...
Fact is, sometimes it IS merely about the revenue and NOT safety.
Could someone explain to me how it is less safe in MI than OH or IN on the interstate hwy system. Merely crossing an imaginary line is suddenly more dangerous and therefore we must reduce the speed that trucks are allowed to drive.
I'll not even get into the split speed limit discussion.
The speed limit is the same for trucks and cars now in the state of OH
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Show me some proof on that. I'd like to see you guys back up some of these statements.
I too, would like to see that. I've been involved with a LOT of PD agencies in the past 28 years and I have yet to see or hear proof of it.

Originally Posted by Administrator
Well guess what? States have a right to set the speed limit to a number they feel is the highest safe speed for a particular stretch of road. It's really that simple.
You're right, but even as an LEO myself I have a problem with that policy. The same thing happened with the CDL's when they were first enacted. It was supposed to make it so that no matter where a driver went, the rules were the same all across the country. That never happened and now each state can make its' own rules as they see fit. We're right back to where we were before CDL's.

Originally Posted by cincydiesel
The speed limit is the same for trucks and cars now in the state of OH
As it should be IMO. Lower the car limit by 5, raise the truck limit by 5, call it good and leave it alone!
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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I would be inclined to believe that it is about revenue in these small towns that post odd numbered speed limits. Eg there are a couple of towns in west central Tenn that have speed limits of 29 and 31 and if you are going 30 or 32,respectively in these towns, coasting downhill or whatever the fine is enforced without prejudice. I have also heard of a town in Oklahoma that has the same policy. Haven't seen that one though so its not "fact". I do know from seeing one of the tickets from Tenn that they are extemely high priced. I believe it was 120 some odd dollars for one mile per hour over. This is not an attempt to anger those of you who are Law Enforcement officers because I know that you all put your lives in danger much like many of us in public service do. But you have to admit in all honesty that there are areas that could be considered "revenue areas." That being said if you don't pay attention and get caught speeding then you have no one but yourself to blame.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by slimpicken
... 120 some odd dollars for one mile per hour over.
If a cop gives you a ticket for 1 over, they're either on a power trip to satisfy their ego, or you are known to them and are probably a Richard head to begin with. Yes, I have given tickets for 1 over, but the reason wasn't to create revenue for my town.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by chaikwa
If a cop gives you a ticket for 1 over, they're either on a power trip to satisfy their ego, or you are known to them and are probably a Richard head to begin with. Yes, I have given tickets for 1 over, but the reason wasn't to create revenue for my town.
Are you saying that you would hassle some poor, deadbeat, druggy by writing him a ticket for driving one mile over the speed limit. Just so you could bust him for dope and get him off the streets? OH the horror.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Radar detectors only get you in trouble, they only tell you when you are getting caught, LOL. If the guy behind the speed detection device knows what he is doing he will get you anyway. Most people that use them think they can speed more which is hardly the case, hence they get caught. I just set the cruise to 5 over and go. Not worth getting a ticket.

I have had many detectors and a boat load of tickets too, so you can say what you want. Been there done that..... It's just not worth it.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfoot
Are you saying that you would hassle some poor, deadbeat, druggy by writing him a ticket for driving one mile over the speed limit. Just so you could bust him for dope and get him off the streets? OH the horror.
Yes. But that is not 'politically correct' anymore. Now it's 'profiling'. It used to be that a particular nasty perp could be taught some manners on the way to the cruiser or enroute to the station, and we used to see a lot less repeat offenders too. (Ooo! You fell! Gotta be more careful man!)

I don't know how some of these guys, (LEO's), can do the job any more. I know I can't and that's why I got out of it.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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I'm with spooler, I crank it up to 5 over pop the cruise and don't worry about it. My LEO friends tell me that (at least around here) you will get 10 over and depending on who it is 15 over before they write. It depends on what your drive to ( in my opinion), I was in a line of cars doing 10 over in my Vette a while back and out of maybe 12 cars I got the ticket, go figure.

On another note we used to have some revenue generators here in S.E. Texas, gave a bad name to a lot of LEO, law suits and other happenings ended their game.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chaikwa
You may HAVE seen this happen. But like Jack said, you don't know what they were doing. May be that they were off duty and going home after a 16 hour shift, in a rotten mood and not in a frame of mind to deal with anyone, (some agencies allow officers to take cars home; they are assigned those units. The Mass SP does this). Or going to a more emergent call. Or maybe they're just a mechanic or other non-enforcement personnel and aren't authorized or equipped to stop in the first place. But in any case, I'd be willing to bet that they used the radio, or a cell phone, to notify the dispatch or car assigned to the area of the motorist in need.

Just something to think about next time you see a cruiser fly by a stranded motor vehicle.
The MOST LIKELY scenario, is dipatch has probably already talked to them (stranded motorist) via 911 cell-phone and probably has help enroute.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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[QUOTE=Administrator;2663282]Show me some proof on that. I'd like to see you guys back up some of these statements. Until then, it's merely an opinion without merit.


If you are saying that it isn't based on revenue, why don't you send the ticket money to charity then?

Untill you stop collecting money for tickets it will allways be about increasing your revenue..

Just my .2Cents
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dfranks
If you are saying that it isn't based on revenue, why don't you send the ticket money to charity then?

Untill you stop collecting money for tickets it will allways be about increasing your revenue..

Just my .2Cents
The revenue is a side benefit from having to enforce safety regulations for people too stupid to be responsible for their own actions.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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The city/ county/ state have to have revenue in order to employee LEOs. That is a fact, and if they do not write enough tickets to pay for the department’s budget then that money would have to come from taxes, your taxes. There is just no other way. It’s the same with the water department if we can’t sell water then we have to cut back on service to stay within the budget.
So yes LEOs generate revenue. It’s most likely the downside of the job for them, very few if any choose that job so they can write tickets so instead of asking them for a break, give them one and don’t give them a reason or the need to write you up. I’m also sure that most would gripe even more if their taxes where to go up. Plus I’ve never received a ticket and not been speeding so……… I’ll just pay my far share when I screw up and get caught. So you see the way to not pay for keeping an officer employed is really quite simple don’t speed.
Sorry just some random thoughts that have been nagging me.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfoot
The city/ county/ state have to have revenue in order to employee LEOs. That is a fact, and if they do not write enough tickets to pay for the department’s budget then that money would have to come from taxes, your taxes.
So why are LEO's being laid off in droves with the bad economy if their paychecks come from the revenue they make writing tickets? There aren't less cars on the road and people aren't speeding any less, so there shouldn't be any effect on LEO's jobs if the revenue is staying the same, which it should be because writing tickets isn't dependant on a good or bad economy.
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