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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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My delima with the whole thing is just that. When they are traps. I was coming out of ny state coming down a hill pulling a 1500 ram on a trailer doing 69 in a 65. They had a field full of officers and a guy on the bridge running the laser. And they pulled me over. That is revenue produce no safty worries involved
The idea of a "speed limit" is the safety aspect. If it was safe the limit would be 69. You gambled, you lost.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Oh wait, where are the cops when you need them?
Just tell them, "In the donut shop!" They're going to say that anyway, might as well get the jump on them. It'll throw them off guard.

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We lost our cheif of police last year due to an ice storm. He had stopped to help a lady who had slide off the road. He was killed by another car after exiting his vehicle to help the lady.
I hope all the active LEO's on this site will remember one thing; Never EVER turn your back to traffic. Maybe not in the literal sense, but I always made it a practice to at least look over my shoulder or out of the corner of my eye at least once every 5 to 10 seconds. Granted, you can't always do that. Wrestling with an idiot or performing a search requires undivided attention, but when approaching your stop or talking to the operator, keep that eye open for what's behind you.


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On another note. I speed frequently and if I get pulled over for speeding regardless if the LEO was hiding under a bridge, exit ramp, or in the air. Give me the ticket I deserve it.
I don't speed 'frequently' but it happens. And when it does I feel the same way as you Eric. It's called personal responsibility.

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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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You "good samaritan" police officers should make videos of some of the things you do for broken down citizens and send them to Arizona. If you broke down on an Arizona highway you would die of starvation before a cop/dps stopped to help you.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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You "good samaritan" police officers should make videos of some of the things you do for broken down citizens and send them to Arizona. If you broke down on an Arizona highway you would die of starvation before a cop/dps stopped to help you.
To be honest, I've never been a fan of the LEO's performing roadside service other than calling for appropriate help. Number one, it simply is not their job or expertise to change tires, retrieve gas or perform repairs. Towing companies spend a small fortune on equipment, insurance and employees, let them at least try to make it back. Secondly, the LEO's put themselves in danger often enough without doing it again in the name of a flat tire.

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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Crude dude
You "good samaritan" police officers should make videos of some of the things you do for broken down citizens and send them to Arizona. If you broke down on an Arizona highway you would die of starvation before a cop/dps stopped to help you.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the way it really is. They never stop to help anyone ever. lol...
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chaikwa
To be honest, I've never been a fan of the LEO's performing roadside service other than calling for appropriate help. Number one, it simply is not their job or expertise to change tires, retrieve gas or perform repairs. Towing companies spend a small fortune on equipment, insurance and employees, let them at least try to make it back. Secondly, the LEO's put themselves in danger often enough without dong it again in the name of a flat tire.

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I have to agree with you on that.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Fact jack, they dont. Thats why I called some of you "good samaritans", Im aware its not in yours/their job description.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Crude dude
Fact jack, they dont. Thats why I called some of you "good samaritans", Im aware its not in yours/their job description.
I'd like a cite on your "fact". Show me something that says they don't ever help out people on the side of the road and that you would starve to death before any of them stopped to help. I'm not talking some of them or just one. I'm talking all of them (cops/troopers).

Interesting how within 5 seconds I'm able to find a whole page of google results on news stories showing otherwise. So show me some FACTS... Yeah I'm sure occasionally one of them doesn't stop or is lazy about it, but that's not what you said. You said we would starve before one of them stopped to help, so prove it.

It IS in my job description, and we stop to help people all the time. I get probably 2-4 motorist assist calls per shift not including the folks I roll up on.

I don't care if you hate cops or not but the FACT is that you're wrong, and I can prove it without even living there.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Crude dude
Fact jack, they dont. Thats why I called some of you "good samaritans", Im aware its not in yours/their job description.
You would be suprised how often they do. Those videos are rarely requested under FOIA.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:36 AM
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Oh man, you got me. You found facts online. Well if you didnt read it I said some of the officers out there are good samaritans, doesnt mean all of them right? It can also be a fact if I have seen dozens of officers ignoring stranded motorists. Not wrong and done.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Crude dude
Oh man, you got me. You found facts online.
Well if you didnt read it I said some of the officers out there are good samaritans, doesnt mean all of them right? It can also be a fact if I have seen dozens of officers ignoring stranded motorists. Not wrong and done.
Like I said, prove it. Show me some data. You cannot.... and the fact is that you don't know what those officers were doing. You may think you do, but I guarantee you, you do not. So yes, you are done.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Crude dude
... I have seen dozens of officers ignoring stranded motorists.
You may HAVE seen this happen. But like Jack said, you don't know what they were doing. May be that they were off duty and going home after a 16 hour shift, in a rotten mood and not in a frame of mind to deal with anyone, (some agencies allow officers to take cars home; they are assigned those units. The Mass SP does this). Or going to a more emergent call. Or maybe they're just a mechanic or other non-enforcement personnel and aren't authorized or equipped to stop in the first place. But in any case, I'd be willing to bet that they used the radio, or a cell phone, to notify the dispatch or car assigned to the area of the motorist in need.

Just something to think about next time you see a cruiser fly by a stranded motor vehicle.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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I stop for a lot of them and go by a lot of them. It all depends on what the priorities are for that moment in time. ....and no, we don't have to have our lights on while going to important call, thank you.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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You are fighting the same attitude that many of us have fought in the past and I'm sure many LEO will fight in the furture. It's sad to say that there are many people that have that same attitude and there is nothing that we can say or do that will ever change their mind. The one or two "Thank You" that we received seemed to overcome the verbal BS that has become so previlant. I never "gave" anyone a ticket---they "earned" it. And yes I do know you pay my salary, and I'm really glad to know the chief is a good friend of yours and I'm really not sure what your going to do with my job once you have it. It's just like when we were all called PIGS- if I heard it once I heard it a thousand time. Some things and some people never change. Keep up the fight and good luck!!!! Remember--You can't cure STUPID!
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Gotten a bit off topic.

However...
Fact is, sometimes it IS merely about the revenue and NOT safety.
Could someone explain to me how it is less safe in MI than OH or IN on the interstate hwy system. Merely crossing an imaginary line is suddenly more dangerous and therefore we must reduce the speed that trucks are allowed to drive.
I'll not even get into the split speed limit discussion.
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