Other Everything else not covered in the main topics goes here. Please avoid brand and flame wars. Don't try and up your post count. It won't work in here.

Question about the lottery

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-04-2008, 10:29 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
03qclb5spd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: South Indy
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question about the lottery

I was reading the story about the guy in Michigan who won the 136 million dollar Mega Millions game jackpot. In past times when watching the news or something on tv and they mention what the winnings would be before and after taxes, the dollar amounts never add up. I know you have to pay your taxes on it, but the before taxes amount is way under what the jackpot is. For instance the guy in Michigan hit the 136 mil jackpot, he went the lump sum route but gets 84.3 million before taxes, and 59.6 million after taxes. So what happened to the other 50 million bucks? Who gets that, where does it go? I'm confused.
Old 04-04-2008, 10:50 PM
  #2  
I think I can... I think...
 
capt.Ron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Texas (DFW area)
Posts: 2,264
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 03qclb5spd
I was reading the story about the guy in Michigan who won the 136 million dollar Mega Millions game jackpot. In past times when watching the news or something on tv and they mention what the winnings would be before and after taxes, the dollar amounts never add up. I know you have to pay your taxes on it, but the before taxes amount is way under what the jackpot is. For instance the guy in Michigan hit the 136 mil jackpot, he went the lump sum route but gets 84.3 million before taxes, and 59.6 million after taxes. So what happened to the other 50 million bucks? Who gets that, where does it go? I'm confused.
The state keeps it.
Other wise you take it in payments and the state gets to keep the interest on it during to 20 or 25 yrs that they're paying it out.
Either way the state is earning money off of that lotto ticket.
That's the whole point of the lottery...for the STATE to earn funds. It's not so John Q. Public can WIN.
Old 04-04-2008, 11:01 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
BlackSunShyne's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: VA
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
They use a discount method if you take the lump sum up front.
Old 04-04-2008, 11:36 PM
  #4  
DTR'S Chaplain
 
ramlovingvet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Brookings Orygun
Posts: 912
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Oregon lotto = Tax on the poor
Old 04-04-2008, 11:38 PM
  #5  
I think I can... I think...
 
capt.Ron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Texas (DFW area)
Posts: 2,264
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ramlovingvet
Oregon lotto = Tax on the poor
Only because the poor play it.
They could choose not to play...as I do.
Old 04-04-2008, 11:41 PM
  #6  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
03qclb5spd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: South Indy
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by capt.Ron
That's the whole point of the lottery...for the STATE to earn funds. It's not so John Q. Public can WIN.
I can read lower case letters just as well as all caps.

I thought that's what the taxes are for, so the state and feds get a cut of it. Seems like skimming off the top in a way.
Old 04-05-2008, 12:21 AM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
03qclb5spd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: South Indy
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I do not play the lottery either. Maybe once in a while I'll get a hunch to do it, but my spendings on lottery tickets each year is maybe 10 or 15 bucks.
Old 04-05-2008, 12:29 AM
  #8  
I think I can... I think...
 
capt.Ron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Texas (DFW area)
Posts: 2,264
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 03qclb5spd
I can read lower case letters just as well as all caps.

I thought that's what the taxes are for, so the state and feds get a cut of it. Seems like skimming off the top in a way.
Wasn't implying anything with the caps. Just trying to emphasis my point.
No offense intended.
The taxes are something that is taken for any earnings that you make.
The other money that they keep is the reason for the lottery.
I believe only the state is getting a cut.
These funds go to completely different govt. accounts. But yes it is skimming off the top. Govt. bureaucracy at it's best.
But again they don't do the lottery for you or me they do it for them.
Old 04-05-2008, 12:32 AM
  #9  
DTR'S Chaplain
 
ramlovingvet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Brookings Orygun
Posts: 912
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by capt.Ron
Only because the poor play it.
They could choose not to play...as I do.
that was the point.
Old 04-05-2008, 12:58 AM
  #10  
Registered User
 
AkTallPaul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Delta Jct Alaska
Posts: 277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Lottery = Voluntary Taxation.........
Old 04-05-2008, 04:10 AM
  #11  
Registered User
 
RickG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Owensboro KY
Posts: 820
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by capt.Ron
Wasn't implying anything with the caps. Just trying to emphasis my point.
No offense intended.
The taxes are something that is taken for any earnings that you make.
The other money that they keep is the reason for the lottery.
I believe only the state is getting a cut.
These funds go to completely different govt. accounts. But yes it is skimming off the top. Govt. bureaucracy at it's best.
But again they don't do the lottery for you or me they do it for them.
You better believe the IRS gets their share and it isn't just the lottery . People that win all those prizes on game shows on tv have to pay tax on the value of the prizes .
Old 04-05-2008, 05:42 AM
  #12  
Adminstrator-ess
 
wannadiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New Holland, PA
Posts: 22,594
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts
Originally Posted by ramlovingvet
Oregon lotto = Tax on the poor
Originally Posted by AkTallPaul
Lottery = Voluntary Taxation.........
I thought it was a tax on people who are bad at math.
Old 04-05-2008, 07:44 AM
  #13  
Registered User
 
AlpineRAM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Austria Europe
Posts: 3,733
Received 263 Likes on 235 Posts
If you look at the probability to win the lottery is a bad business. On the other hand you can see it like this:
For the price of some $ you get a weekend full of dreams. "What if I won 50 million bucks? Which color for my Rolls Royce?"
So the lottery is the anti alcoholic and legal alternative to beer, whiskey and dope.

AlpineRAM
Old 04-05-2008, 11:34 AM
  #14  
Registered User
 
6cylinders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Washington State
Posts: 168
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
When the Mega, or Lotto or quinto get huge I sometimes buy a couple tickets. It's cheap entertainment.
But I don't spend over $20 a year on it. When they first started Lotto here in Wa they promised money from it would pay for schools and there would be no more tax levy's. That never happened and we still have levy's.
Old 04-05-2008, 03:21 PM
  #15  
Registered User
 
Wolfeman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Cedar Park (Austin) Texas
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
To answer the original question, " What happened to the other 50 mil? ". The jackpot was only the cash payout amount. ( minus a cut for the state.) If you took the cash payout and bought an anuity that paid out over twenty years it would add up to the 139 Mil. In other words the 50 mil was what the cash payout would earn over twenty years. So the 50 mil doesn't exist at present. The hard part isn't understanding this, it's getting a winning ticket.
I play the lottery weekly, I know it's not a good bet but I can afford what I lose and enjoy thinking about how many lives I could change for the better if (and when) I win. Good luck to those of you who also play.


Quick Reply: Question about the lottery



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:08 AM.