Nice, well put. Someone told me that they always "demand to see the radar gun read out," that they officer has to show you (don't know validity of that). I imagine it would just **** off the officer and maybe take you from a warning to a ticket.

 

that is true in illinois, not in wisconsin(dont ask how i know).
i have demanded to see the radar-after it was clear a ticket was going to be served

 

There is one instance that I agree with this statement. In Carlisle PA the cops got a bright yellow Ford Focus and riced it out. They run it up and down the strip and get kids to race them. A kid at work that has a Eclipse raced them and got nailed. He said the Focus rolled up beside him and kept hitting the gas then brakes trying to egg him on. I know street racing is a problem and he did break the law but I think catching them that way is wrong.

Other than that, I dont care what they sit in along the road and write tickets out of. I think its funny when a cop goes down the interstate. Its like the pace car in NASCAR, you better not pass the pace car

 

I take it your not a Dale Jr. fan

 

Worst one I saw was a grey minivan pulling someone over. Just flipped down his visor and had the lights there.

As for the rest, well the cops on the road are appropriate. I have no problem with that. Red light cameras and speed cameras I do have a problem with. I think that is only for revenue. I just heard about a town in MD that made more money then its yearly current budget. Found a quick blerb on it:http://www.nbc4.com/traffic/16577762/detail.html That would be a small village making 3 Mil a year off that.

 

The only thing that Edit is the fact that cops will speed WAY over the limit, with no signs of responding to a call etc. They think there allowed to be above the law / bend it because there somehow better than us lowly civilians...since we are civilians now and there not...right..

Cops have NO right to speed any faster than any other motorist unless there is something that requires them to do so. Them speeding is just as dangerous as anyone else speeding, just because there cops dosent make them better drivers or less prone to accidents, I mean hell people think all cops are good shots and are all firearm experts, get serious most dont shoot there gun unless its for qualification .

All in all, generally cops as of late are becoming a little too big headed, they think they are the supreme law, which many dont even know what the laws are other than the most basic ones.

 

First off, no body, not even Police are above the law. If an Officer kills or injures a civilian they have to answer for it, just like any one else. Especially, if it is found that the officer was breaking/bending the law.

Just because the officer is speeding does not necessarily mean that they are not enroute to an emergency. Now if the officer was enroute to an emergency and was speeding, without lights and siren, and as previously stated... killed or injured a civilian, then that officer would have to answer for that, just like I would if I injured some while speeding, going to a fire call with no lights or siren.

I agree with this first statement. An officer should not speed just cause he/she can. It can be as dangerous for them to speed as us, however, they go through months upon months of training to be able to handle those speeds, in any form of traffic, they are also trained when to use high speeds and when not to.

In some ways they are a slightly better driver than the average person on the road. As previously stated they go through a lot of training to be able to drive those speeds. If they should spin out at those speeds they are taught how to control it, where as if average joe were to also pull out of the same spin it would be more luck than training.

Even though they do have all of that training on high speed driving and vehicle control, does not mean that they are less prone to accidents.

Yes police are very good shots, and some are experts, they have to be. Most police officers dont want to have to use their gun, unless it is for qualification. Just like most officers dont want to get in high speed pursuit. However they train for it so if they get in a situation where they have no choice, they have the training to control it.

Unfortunately, yes there are officers out there that do let the badge go to their head, which is why they have to answer to the same laws as we do.

Police Officers are not the supreme law, and as for the statement about them not knowing the laws, that is untrue. They are required to know the laws, because they deal with all kinds of different situations.

Dont speed, murder, steal, drink and drive etc...... those are basic laws, that even average joe knows, common sense. However, there are many laws that arent common sense laws that average joe does not know, that police officers have to know to deal with a situation.

Sorry for the long post. Just needed to clear things up.

 

He alrady did. He just goes by a different name and changed his avitar

 

LOL.....had a nice long response typed out. Deleted it and figured time to move on to the next post.

 

Many cops ARE much better drivers . It depends on their training . See pages 41 - 45 http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...g_214917_7.pdf

 

I've seen a State Trooper in a Black and White Corvette in Magnolia. Behind him was a PT Cruiser with the old school cylinder style lights on top. They are getting more creative.


I see the high speed chase rate going up! On top of that more powerful cop cars are gonna mean more aggressive driving in high speed pursuit and in turn more dangerous activities out of the chased one. Lets hope the cops practice safe driving with these.

 

The reason the number of high speed chases are going up is because more and more jurisdictions are telling the officers to back off. This entices the felon to push the limits to try and make the officers back off. They figure if they can make things a bit (or a lot) dangerous then the police back off and they can get away.

The judges and juries need to start putting these type of people away for extended "vacations" IMHO.

 

I think all traffic enforcement vehicles should be marked well enough that anyone can tell they are actaully police.


Too many creeps out there that can throw up some lights in a Malibu and rape your wife, daughter, mother, girl friend, you, etc...


No need for secret police. Kinda insults the public... I guess it's in the name of "progress". I'm not very progressive I guess.

I don't see many unmarked patrol cars around here but I saw a maroon intrepid back in the day in college station working around grand prarie. They seem common out of state and for some reason that always creeps me out.

 

If someone wants to speed then that's their business and no one else's. If they get caught then that's their problem. Anyone on this board who thinks they have some legal or moral right to tell another person they can't drive in the manner they feel comfortable with is sadly mistaken. It's no one else's business.

I speed when I need to get somewhere in a hurry and I usually drive at a rate that I feel is safe and comfortable for the road and conditions. Sometimes that doesn't agree with some arbitrary numbers on a white reflective sign next to the road. Big deal. If I owned a car that was set up and designed for high-speed driving then I'd have no qualms about running up the interstate at 3-figures if the conditions were right. That means free of traffic and dry.

And we all know of at least 1 speed trap near our houses, so ignoring the statement of legalized extortion is dismissive and foolish. No, the statement does not always apply. But there are certainly cases where it does apply.

 

That is a 100% valid point. With the internet these days its easy to get a realistic uniform and a light to do what you are saying.

What are you supposed to do when a under cover cop pulls you over and you doubt his credentials? I wouldnt want tick off a legitimate cop but how am I supposed to know the difference between a fake badge and real one? You give a police officer a lot of personal data and I could see this as a source of identity theft.

I bet if a fake cop says theres a conflict and your drivers license isnt coming up right and they need to run your S.S. number to verify it a lot of people would give it.... including me. There they have name/address/SS number/drivers license number etc.