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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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Not Having A Good Summer.

lets start by saying, I AM OFFICIALLY HOMELESS, now i will explain. i plan to move down and live with my dad here before too long, well i dont have an exact date when this is gonna happen yet. we live on a 650 acre farm here in ohio, my/mom's house, my grandmothers house and my aunts house. well after everything with grandfathers will was settled, grandma owned our house and we owned grandmas house. well easter weekend, everyone but Logan got together and decided that my cousin, his wife and 2 kids are going to move into my house, as in remove me and live there. my mom moved out and moved in with her husband about 6 miles away in a little town, marital problems between them too, stayed together for my younger sister. well this started out as my cousin living here once i leave and they were just gonna fix it up, NOW they are buying it from my grandmother along with 20 more acres, my cousin is trying some shifty stuff with that, now the dumpster is coming beginning of july and what you cant take with you to florida, throw out or we will, ive got 22 years worth of memories and stuff here, its like figuring out who should live and die, they were polite about it but i know what they meant. construction crews are soming to tear out 1/2 of the house and makeing like 3 rooms bigger, cut down trees all kinds of stuff. i dont like any of these ideas. my cousins wife has no idea about whats going on, he is running it and he is being real shady.

my great, great, great, great grandfather started this farm in the early 1800's, down through the generations this farm has passed, now its about time, me, my brother and sister inherited it. now let me explain some more, my grandmother has 5 kids, 4 by her first marriage, not heirs to the farm, and my mother, the youngest, by grandma's second husband, my grandfather, well my grandmother hated my grandfather for about the last 20 years they were married and it would be great for her to see what he built fall apart just out of revenge. my mom, me, my brother and my sister are the only true heirs to the farm, but all the other "kids" want a piece even though they didnt stay here and help my grandfather, they gave up and moved away, leaving my mom here to deal with it all, me and my mom want to keep it together, my grandfathers were born, lived, worked and died here, i will be damned if someone that dosent deserve it is gonna come in and destroy what they built. I MAY NOT HAVE MUCH, BUT **** IT, I AM NOT GIVING THIS FARM UP, NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES, ILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL BEFORE I LET SOMEONE ELSE TAKE IT. MY GRANDFATHER DIDNT WORK HIMSELF TO DEATH HERE SO IT COULD BE SOLD IN 2 ACRES LOTS TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. THEY CAN HAVE THE DEED TO THIS FARM WHEN THEY PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD FINGERS.

sorry for the rant, its just i dont have much, never really have had a whole lot, worked most of my childhood to survive, now that i get a chance to make it, i aint letting this slip away, and no it IS NOT about the money, we only make about 7,500 bucks a year after the money is split up at the end of the year. hardly anything but it makes the payment.
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Not sure I understand all of your post.
If you own a house, on a lot, and the deed is in your name, it is yours. That will stand up in a court.
Who was the last legal owner of the land that was in the family for generations?
When that person died, was there a will? If not they died "intestate" and the court has a law that directs how the estate is passed on to the heirs. You have rights. You will probly need a lawer.
Good luck
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Family crap is the worst to deal with. I can feel your pain.

When my great grandparents died ~15 years ago, an uncle distributed about 1/4 the value of the estate & kept the rest. No one (but my parents) wanted to prosecute. So, in the interest of family peace, nothing was done. Still irritates me and my parents! The law should apply to EVERYONE!

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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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we own 1/2 of the farm, grandma owns 1/2 of the farm, our house sets on her half, her house sets on our half, she is gonna sell my house to my cousin. i do not like this idea as you can imagine why. my grandfather was the last owner of the farm til he died and grandma got her half and the other 1/2 was tied up in court sort of til my mom recieved her half. if it comes to getting a lawyer we will.
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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It has already come to needing a lawyer.
You really need to get one. Now
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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im glad ive actually got some positive responses here, most of the websites i am a member of would of blamed the whole mess on me for one reason or another.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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On you own you can go to the county the land is located in. Get the records of who is listed as the owner of what parcles. It might supprise you. Many times in familes no one ever recorded the change of ownership.
You might be able to do some of the research on line.
Get a lawer you will need one when this goes to court.
Keep us posted and best of luck.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Logan,I agree you need to speak with an attorney asap. I wish you the best of luck!
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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YES... Get an attorney.. That is just wrong.. Soo you own the house your grand mother lives in and she owns yours sooo boot her out and let her live in her house and you live in hers??? Why is she doing that to you?? I am a little puzzled on that but if seen so much with my fiance's family that it doesen't surprise me...

They owned farm land too and it's a mess!! For instance her uncle(BLEEEp, BLEEEP did my own personal edit there!!!) came to the house took all four guns gave one to each son and kept two where there is one more grandson supposed to get a gun.. and he's like uuuuuh no there was only 3 guns and everyone knows there was four!!!

I feel sorry for ya but don't wait... Get a lawyer..

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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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its cut and dried at who owns the land, we own the west side of the farm, and she owns the east side, it was originally all one farm, after my grandfather died, it was split in half, well we have never trusted her cause she hated my grandfather for probably the last 20 years they was married, and her 4 oldest kids from her first marriage never wanted anything to do with the farm, now that grandma is getting older, late 70's, everyone is coming out of the woodwork and kissing butt to try and get a piece of the property, the problem is, is that the ones that want a piece, cant be trusted with it, they have no heritage or attachment here, first chance they get, they will sell it to make some cash, one good thing, she has thought about giving her half to me and my brother, but that is doubtful. like i said, ill keep this farm from being sold one way or another.

the reason i worry so much about it being sold is that i live less than 3 minutes from a lake with a state beach, paved country road, down the road not to far farms are being lotted off left and right, there aint many farms left, with land being 3,500 an acre normal price, and where im at probably 5,000 an acre, makes that a big temptation for people wanting to buy property, we get probably 3 offers a month from places and people wanting to buy us out, of course that isnt gonna happen, with the other family members they would sell in a heartbeat.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Well, if you need to be out of your grandmas house the first of July, I think grandma needs to be out of your house at the same time.

Now the thing is, your grandma owns the house on your property, and you own her's on her property. She can do anything to that house. BUT, it is on your land so you should be able to have a say (deed restrictions,things like that) in what happens to the house. That place won't be worth a dang thing if your cousin can not get to it because you will not give him an easement over your land.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Man I just got done going through the whole "will thing". Get a lawyer for sure. If nothing else he might have a "diplomatic" approach.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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WOW! Bad things happen to good people, Logan...

Time is short, but buck up sir, it is possible to settle this amicably with the help of some key folks.

Monday, call an attorney for a 'deferment of property transfer' as no established building can be 'halved'. a stated parcel is the house sitting on one acre/ five if your county has that option.

Second, after telling the attorney what you have listed here, the title search and deed conveyance will state who owns the properties and who has the rights of transfer for the basic start of any procedure involving land.
Not to be rude but was this probate? testate? estate? (depends on money amount of all owned property by the grandfather) anything on his wishes or did everything just go to the grandmom? again, PM me. don't want to be public with some stuff.

by working on the farm not just living there as grandmom can attest- you have an inheritable claim to a whole house and an amount of property. this is where an attorney or hearing officer (appointed by court) will be instrumental at having the Court decide. but you have to get moving, a stop order will be requested (motion filed in Court). no one can change anything until the Court looks at your petition. that half a house thing is flawed, and won't stand up under legal scrutiny. worry only about what you can do for the attorney, or you will drive yourself nuts over all the worms coming out of the woodwork. funerals are the absolute worst to see how mean people can really be-
my adopted brother was in my house, packing up my expensive goods when I was at the funeral home. I took care of my dad for ten years, after building him and mom a house on land i gave them. brother just bugged my dad for money, my dad had given him all his savings (my dad's pension was 60 dollars a month). yeah, everyone will have an unreal , heart hardening story when poeple think 'fee money!!'. Soooo SORRY it happened to you this way, especially when you cared about the good fella, grandpa. many thoughts of strength, courage, and brotherly love are with you tonight, my friend.

ask the Court if there is a mediator available, you will get a better closure for this and make the decision together with the grandma, if she gets frumpy (you know what I mean) the Court basically holds that against her in a decision. we will be thinking good thoughts for you, cause some of us have been there.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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yeah, id boot her out of the house on your land if shes booting you out.

i can slightly understand what your going through. when my grandpa (dads dad) died my STEPgrandmother ended up with like 90% of everything because she hackled him to change things in her favor. well, she and her kids are a bunch of snobs. our family was pretty well shunned right after the funeral. my dad spend the last 5 years of my grandpa's life traveling 6 hours one way to go and see him and take care of him. SHE just sat and complained about my grandfather. my dad ended up getting $150,000 inheritence from the will. my stepgrandmother tried to weazel out of things till my dad got an attorney involved. the witch? she ended up with ~2 MILLINON dollars plus a huge orchard, huge house, tons of equipment. my grandpa willed me an old car he had, and after he died she tried selling it out from under me..even though my name was on the title.

so while not as big or a situation, i understand the greed that can come from people who are suposed to be "family"

i agree with everyone else..get a lawyer. this isnt right and if you get the law involved i cant see how you end up losing this whole bit
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Justwannabeme
Time is short, but buck up sir, it is possible to settle this amicably with the help of some key folks.

Monday, call an attorney for a 'deferment of property transfer' as no established building can be 'halved'. a stated parcel is the house sitting on one acre/ five if your county has that option.

Second, after telling the attorney what you have listed here, the title search and deed conveyance will state who owns the properties and who has the rights of transfer for the basic start of any procedure involving land.
Not to be rude but was this probate? testate? estate? (depends on money amount of all owned property by the grandfather) anything on his wishes or did everything just go to the grandmom? again, PM me. don't want to be public with some stuff.

by working on the farm not just living there as grandmom can attest- you have an inheritable claim to a whole house and an amount of property. this is where an attorney or hearing officer (appointed by court) will be instrumental at having the Court decide. but you have to get moving, a stop order will be requested (motion filed in Court). no one can change anything until the Court looks at your petition. that half a house thing is flawed, and won't stand up under legal scrutiny. worry only about what you can do for the attorney, or you will drive yourself nuts over all the worms coming out of the woodwork. funerals are the absolute worst to see how mean people can really be-
my adopted brother was in my house, packing up my expensive goods when I was at the funeral home. I took care of my dad for ten years, after building him and mom a house on land i gave them. brother just bugged my dad for money, my dad had given him all his savings (my dad's pension was 60 dollars a month). yeah, everyone will have an unreal , heart hardening story when poeple think 'fee money!!'. Soooo SORRY it happened to you this way, especially when you cared about the good fella, grandpa. many thoughts of strength, courage, and brotherly love are with you tonight, my friend.

ask the Court if there is a mediator available, you will get a better closure for this and make the decision together with the grandma, if she gets frumpy (you know what I mean) the Court basically holds that against her in a decision. we will be thinking good thoughts for you, cause some of us have been there.
Listen to this woman... she iz smart, (and has helped me out of more than one snafu! ). All the other posts here are good info for ya too, but this honorable lady lives this stuff everyday!

chaikwa.
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