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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Is it normal not to put re-bar in the footings?? If so why, what would it hurt?

Footings for my new house got poured today and I did ask. And the more I think about it, it doesn't seem right.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Is it normal not to put re-bar in the footings?? If so why, what would it hurt?

Footings for my new house got poured today and I did ask. And the more I think about it, it doesn't seem right.
depends on code. how thick and wide was the footer?? If it was at least 12" deep than no real need for rebar. footer mixes are the weakest mixes that we make and sell.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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depends on code. how thick and wide was the footer?? If it was at least 12" deep than no real need for rebar. footer mixes are the weakest mixes that we make and sell.
2 feet wide and 6" deep
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Was that engineered? Never heard of such a small footing.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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That does seem awful shallow. A curb is usually deeper and rebar bar in it.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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That does seem awful shallow. A curb is usually deeper and rebar bar in it.
never seen curb with rebar in it and just started a 2500 yard curb and gutter project for DOH. all machine and NO rebar
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RAMRODD
2 feet wide and 6" deep
how deep into the ground was it and what was the subgrade composed of?? sounds really thin for a footing but it is has a hard subgrade you MIGHT be ok but I think you will have problems latter on it life. Might want to call a local engineer or building permit office to see what code requires.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by annabelle
Was that engineered? Never heard of such a small footing.
It was engineered. But I don't have the specs the contractors do.


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how deep into the ground was it and what was the subgrade composed of?? sounds really thin for a footing but it is has a hard subgrade you MIGHT be ok but I think you will have problems latter on it life. Might want to call a local engineer or building permit office to see what code requires.
The footings are 4 feet deep and the ground is hard dry clay
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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Is the concrete Fiber reinforced.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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If the footings are 4' deep, then I have never seen anything that large poured without rebar. I've done commercial work for 25+ years, and have poured 1000's of yards of concrete. Never heard of pouring a lighter mixture for footing either.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by annabelle
If the footings are 4' deep, then I have never seen anything that large poured without rebar. I've done commercial work for 25+ years, and have poured 1000's of yards of concrete. Never heard of pouring a lighter mixture for footing either.
wv state building codes require a min of 2500 psi for footers, most contractor use 300 for basement slabs and 3500 for the garages. I could never figure it out either. and I think his footers are 4' into the ground to get below the frosr line.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Purplezr2
Is the concrete Fiber reinforced.
synthetic fiber is not designed to be a main reinforcing agent. It is a secondary reinforcing agent and to help with shrinkage cracking.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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We are required to go a min. depth and insulate the footing to the frost line. I still don't understand why rebar is not required......I can see the 2500 concrete ( although I've only used that light a mix for sidewalks) and the 3000 + for the slab. What was this 2'X 6" footing?
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by annabelle
We are required to go a min. depth and insulate the footing to the frost line. I still don't understand why rebar is not required......I can see the 2500 concrete ( although I've only used that light a mix for sidewalks) and the 3000 + for the slab. What was this 2'X 6" footing?
that footing has got me confused also. I would much rather have a 12"x12" footer anyday of the week. that is plenty for a 8" wall. hope they put rebar in the walls
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Well depth will depend on the soil, but 12-18" thick should be fine.
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