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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Need tips on inheriting a gun collection

My ailing father-in-law wants me to assume his small gun collection. He has the following hand guns:

9mm Browing
9mm Glock
9mm Sig
.40 Sig
.45 Sig
and a 30-30 Marilin rifle

All are in pristine condition. He bought 2 of each, modified and fired one and kept the other in like new and unfired. Here's the rub. All of his guns were hand carried from PA to NJ when he moved into my daughter's house a few years ago, so basically the law doesn't know that they're there. If I am to take possession of them, I going to need to carry them across 3 states to my home in MA. This has FELONY written all over it, and I would really prefer to spend the next 10 years with my lovely wife. Although I've been many times to the range, I presently have no interest gun ownership. Does anybody have suggestions on how I go about transferring them from him to me and from NJ to MA. I would prefer to sell them but can't do it at this time for obvious reasons.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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You need to check with the local authorities whether or not your city requires them to be registered. Also if they have Hi-Capacity magazines and if they are allowed in your state. As for transferring them them from him to you, there is no necessary paperwork that needs to be done.
As for transporting them, again, check with the highway patrol offices in the States that you will be traveling through. More than likely they will just require you to have them unloaded, and cased.
If you do decide to sell them down the road, I'd be interested in the Glocks.
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Did I mention I'd be interested in the Glock's?
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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The handguns are not registered to him on a federal level so I don't understand. Where does your felony lie? Do you mean vehicle transport? I know NJ and NY are pretty strict on vehicle transport, but you can still pick them up and bring them home as long as you do it in accordance with each states laws. If you want them shipped to you it will be necessary to make a dealer to dealer transfer. From an FFL dealer in NJ to an FFL dealer in MA. I know MA is a mess thanks to Ted Kennedy, but I don't think it is illegal to own a firearm in MA.

Maybe I'm totally missing something. There could be other laws that I am not aware of in your state and the state that the firearms are located in. It would be best to consult with an attorney and/or state legislature to ensure you have all of your ducks in a row before securing your small collection.

The following link may help a little as well;

http://www.nraila.org/newsite/GunLaw...aws.aspx?ID=59
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Since Mike beat me to the Glock and I already have a few.... I'd be interested in the .40 Sig when you are ready. I don't have anything in that caliber yet and am always looking for new toys.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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If you have inherited the guns, you can transport them home with no restrictions or permits, it's not illegal. Certain transport conditions must be considered, but it's not illegal to get them and take them home.

A good place to get info on transporting and possessing guns while traveling is www.packing.org. Go to your state and scroll down to firearms registration and then the car gun laws sections. Do this for all the states you will be traveling through. Usually if the guns are unloaded and locked in a trunk or tool box there is no problem. Some states require any ammo to be locked up and kept seperate from the guns, check to be sure.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Very quietly load them in your trunk and sneak back to Taxachusetts.

OR, for a small fee I will drive to NJ and carry them to your house.

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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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You guys in the cool states crack me up, This is the northeast! It's not so simple. If NJ has a pistol permit system, are the gun permitted in NJ? If so they will then need to be transferred to you, I know Mass has the FID, does that include hand guns or is that a seperate permit? In NY hand guns are a seperate permit and must each be listed on the permit in order for you to carry a certain guns.

When my grandfather died my father got the hand guns, no big deal he was a cop and wasn't required to have a permit. But he then gave the guns to me, technically at that time the guns were located at the local police station I then had to apply for my permit and have those guns listed on the permit (gotta love NY) after three months I got my permit and was allowed to "pick up" the hand guns.

Now I did live in Maine for 5 years and got my permit up there, I just tucked everything deep away and drove the guns up there and you could do the same. Lock them in a box with no ammo and I don't think anyone would bother you but you could check with the State Police in each state to be certain.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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I would call the police from a phone booth and ask the question. I just don't think you are breaking any laws. If you carry the guns where you can't get at them what is the problem?

Here in Nebraska it is illegal to conceal a hand gun so you have to drive around with it on your front seat or dash. If you put it in your glove compartment or even put a news paper over it you are breaking the law. AND they can be loaded. No round in the chamber for an auto. Long guns (rifle / shotguns) can be fully loaded and carried anywhere, anytime. Makes hunting easier.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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I would help eliminating the crossing of state lines, I could take them off your hands as it sounds like you don't want them that bad any way.... heck I'm here in NJ about 360 days a year anyway.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Where are you located? I will come by and take them off your hands so you dont have to worry about any legal issues..
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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I would take them up to MA and deal with it from there. Empty and in locked cases there will be no legal problems. Your father-in-law (or whoever has power of attorney if he is too ill) can do the necessary paperwork with you up there. DO NOT talk to the police in NJ unless you want a lot of hassles for your father-in-law.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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Don't go to back massachusetts, you'll be better off
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Simplest thing is put them in the car, drive home obeying the speed limit and such. If your not causing problems or wanted for anything... it's not like the gun grabbers have check points at the state line.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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[QUOTE=smokindog]The handguns are not registered to him on a federal level so I don't understand. Where does your felony lie? Do you mean vehicle transport?

I am with you, I guess I missed something too. Even if you had bought the guns from him by obtaining a atf form and doing it that way, if you ever run the numbers on them they will allways come back reg. too him, because he was the orig owner. I would not worry about it and enjoy them, you are not breaking any laws that I see.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Check here for more Mass. state gun owning info.
http://www.mass.gov/chsb/frb/frb.html

As the Commonwealth's repository for firearms records, the Firearms Record Bureau (FRB) maintains a database of licenses issued including licenses to carry firearms (LTCs), Firearms Identification (FID) cards, gun dealer licenses, and machine gun licenses. The FRB also keeps records of firearms sales by gun dealers, as well as private transfers of weapons. As a result, law enforcement agencies have access to data on over 280,000 FID and LTC records and over 2 million gun transactions as an investigative tool.

In addition to processing about 4,000 records per week, the FRB is a valuable resource for the public and law enforcement agencies to answer questions regarding the Commonwealth's gun laws.

For additional information, or answers to questions not found on this site please contact the CHSB's Firearms Records Bureau at (617) 660-4780.
It seems that Mass. want to keep records on all it's gun owning citizens by requiring all firearms to be registered with the state.

Virginia looks better all the time.............
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