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in the movie tombstone .... there is a part where val kilmer says to his rival gunslinger ...... " i'll be your huckleberry " anyone know what this means ?? scott
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Theres a couple of rumors or explanations that I have heard on this one.
1) In Europe those days, the person who carried (or helped carry) the casket to the burial plot was known as the Huck Barrier.
One rumor says that Val played up on this and changed it to Huckleberry.
Meaning that he would take his opponent to the grave.
2) The second explanation I heard was a variation of the first.
A Hulk Barer was someone that helped you get something done. (As in helping you bare the load of something).
When his opponent yelled out and asked if no one wanted to fight, Doc (Val) offered to be the one to fight.
Either way, or even if there is some other explanation, that is one of my favorite movies!
Theres a lot of sites out there that give more (and probably more accurate) info on this.
Here is just one of them.
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1) In Europe those days, the person who carried (or helped carry) the casket to the burial plot was known as the Huck Barrier.
One rumor says that Val played up on this and changed it to Huckleberry.
Meaning that he would take his opponent to the grave.
2) The second explanation I heard was a variation of the first.
A Hulk Barer was someone that helped you get something done. (As in helping you bare the load of something).
When his opponent yelled out and asked if no one wanted to fight, Doc (Val) offered to be the one to fight.
Either way, or even if there is some other explanation, that is one of my favorite movies!
Theres a lot of sites out there that give more (and probably more accurate) info on this.
Here is just one of them.
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I just found this out myself:
Read more about the quote below:
http://members.***.net/tombstone/faq.html
In Days of Destiny's "Mass Lynching," It is claimed that on August 28th, 1885, 9 people were taken by a mob intent on performing justice, and hung at a tree close to Tombstone. One of these soon to be lynchees was a gambler known only as "Joe," and at 3 that morning, four men burst upon him dealing cards, and leveled guns at him. Joe responded quickly, saying "Well then, I suppose I am your huckleberry!"
As Joe was dead within hours, no one could figure what exactly he was talking about....
I'd say that Barbara LYFORD (<btlyford@sbcglobal.net) basically answers the question, though:
"Huckleberry" was commonly used in the 1800's in conjunction with "persimmon" as a small unit of measure. "I'm a huckleberry over your persimmon" meant "I'm just a bit better than you." As a result, "huckleberry" came to denote idiomatically two things. First, it denoted a small unit of measure, a "tad," as it were, and a person who was a huckleberry could be a small, unimportant person--usually expressed ironically in mock self-depreciation. The second and more common usage came to mean, in the words of the "Dictionary of American Slang: Second Supplemented Edition" (Crowell, 1975):
"A man; specif., the exact kind of man needed for a particular purpose. 1936: "Well, I'm your huckleberry, Mr. Haney." Tully, "Bruiser," 37. Since 1880, archaic.
The "Historical Dictionary of American Slang" which is a multivolume work, has about a third of a column of citations documenting this meaning all through the latter 19th century.
So "I'm your huckleberry" means "I'm just the man you're looking for!"
As Joe was dead within hours, no one could figure what exactly he was talking about....
I'd say that Barbara LYFORD (<btlyford@sbcglobal.net) basically answers the question, though:
"Huckleberry" was commonly used in the 1800's in conjunction with "persimmon" as a small unit of measure. "I'm a huckleberry over your persimmon" meant "I'm just a bit better than you." As a result, "huckleberry" came to denote idiomatically two things. First, it denoted a small unit of measure, a "tad," as it were, and a person who was a huckleberry could be a small, unimportant person--usually expressed ironically in mock self-depreciation. The second and more common usage came to mean, in the words of the "Dictionary of American Slang: Second Supplemented Edition" (Crowell, 1975):
"A man; specif., the exact kind of man needed for a particular purpose. 1936: "Well, I'm your huckleberry, Mr. Haney." Tully, "Bruiser," 37. Since 1880, archaic.
The "Historical Dictionary of American Slang" which is a multivolume work, has about a third of a column of citations documenting this meaning all through the latter 19th century.
So "I'm your huckleberry" means "I'm just the man you're looking for!"
http://members.***.net/tombstone/faq.html
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Originally posted by dieselcrazy
in the movie tombstone .... there is a part where val kilmer says to his rival gunslinger ...... " i'll be your huckleberry " anyone know what this means ?? scott
in the movie tombstone .... there is a part where val kilmer says to his rival gunslinger ...... " i'll be your huckleberry " anyone know what this means ?? scott
Sorry....but that's pretty much my favorite movie of all time.
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I went down there (tombstone) about 5 or 6 years ago with my wife and kid. Pretty interesting place to visit. Funny thing was that we were watching a show on TV recently that dealt with haunted places with the Bird Cage saloon being one of them. Well they were mentioning that the ghost of the Madam/prostitute(?) resides in the bird cage and some have noticed a peculiar perfume fragrance when she is nearby that she was known to wear. My wife insists that she mentioned that smell to me when we were there and I couldn't smell a thing. 
Boot hill was interesting too. I didn't pay to watch the OK Corral reenactment because the historians tell us that It didn't actually happen in the OK Corral but on the street outside.
Boot hill was interesting too. I didn't pay to watch the OK Corral reenactment because the historians tell us that It didn't actually happen in the OK Corral but on the street outside.
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Those are some interesting explanations. When I was a kid, we use to hunt for huckleberry's. They're hard to find. I kinda of assumed in the movie, he was kinda saying "you found your prize" which would be close to a couple of these.
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I have 2 copies of Tombstone, and have rarely watched any movie more than twice, but I can watch Tombstone over and over. It seems that every time I watch it, I pick up some small thing I may not have noticed in the movie before. It's the greatest movie of all times for me. I get a big kick out of the part where Doc imitates Johny Ringo in the bar with his little drinking glass(uses it as a gun)!!
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