In the middle of a brain storm...... need some engineering advice
Originally Posted by Ripper406
Im pretty sure they use huge hydraulic presses to get the frame to bow, and then they cut small square holes in them to hold shape. Would be too difficult to do this on a personal trailer.
chaikwa
Originally Posted by Chrisreyn
BTW just for arguments sake, the strongest shape structuraly is a circle...
Originally Posted by Chrisreyn
I realy didn't have a clue about this, but figured it would start a good discussion...... 

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Originally Posted by NORM
BTW just for arguments sake, the strongest shape structuraly is a circle...
For the purpose of answering the original question, the shape of the structural member is important, but even more important is how the loads are applied to said member. For example, take a length of channel. If that channel is web side vertical or web side horizontal, the bending loads will vary tremendously. The same idea applies to angle iron; place one leg vertical or at an angle of 45 degrees and everything changes.
Originally Posted by Rauschbo
The derivation of strength comparisons and Section Modulii are a bit beyond the scope of this thread, but the wide flange (I-Beam) is stronger than a rectangle......
...if weight is a consideration (weight of the beams), you can back-calculate a required section modulus given the load + factor of safety, then find the requisite beam / tube dimensions - and weight/ft. - from any of dozens of ASME of industry handbooks.
...if weight is a consideration (weight of the beams), you can back-calculate a required section modulus given the load + factor of safety, then find the requisite beam / tube dimensions - and weight/ft. - from any of dozens of ASME of industry handbooks.
Originally Posted by Rauschbo
Load across the beam is linear:
<--------- Surface: Tensile Stress
<-------
<-----
<---
<-
----------------- Load is -0- across the neutral Axis -------------
->
--->
----->
------->
---------> Surface of lower web: Compressive Stress
Note that the load bearing regions are in the actual webs of the beam
The derivation of strength comparisons and Section Modulii are a bit beyond the scope of this thread, but the wide flange (I-Beam) is stronger than a rectangle......
...if weight is a consideration (weight of the beams), you can back-calculate a required section modulus given the load + factor of safety, then find the requisite beam / tube dimensions - and weight/ft. - from any of dozens of ASME of industry handbooks.
<--------- Surface: Tensile Stress
<-------
<-----
<---
<-
----------------- Load is -0- across the neutral Axis -------------
->
--->
----->
------->
---------> Surface of lower web: Compressive Stress
Note that the load bearing regions are in the actual webs of the beam
The derivation of strength comparisons and Section Modulii are a bit beyond the scope of this thread, but the wide flange (I-Beam) is stronger than a rectangle......
...if weight is a consideration (weight of the beams), you can back-calculate a required section modulus given the load + factor of safety, then find the requisite beam / tube dimensions - and weight/ft. - from any of dozens of ASME of industry handbooks.
*edit: i'd go c channel and maybe some S channels in there (wide or standard depending on load)
also, check this out as it will would give you a good heads up...
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