http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11...on-against-us/

Canada wants to sell the US, safe and reliable energy, but I guess the powers that be, know better...

 

It is rather hard to argue with the Americans too much when some of our own provinces (BC and Quebec) are trying to stop us moving our own oil within our own country. Grrrrr. What if we put up a blockade to prevent BC from shipping their wood across our province. Better yet, if BC doesn't want oil pipelines, then just shut them all off. No pipelines, no oil, no gas and no jet fuel. Fine with me. Gonna be hard to run those logging trucks without fuel. How are all the SUV's in Vancouver going to run without gas? It is a two way street people.....

Ok, that rant has been pent up in me for about 9 months!!

 

ya know... Im thinking they are saying we're 5 years from energy independence. Rig count is down 10%. I wouldn't mind seeing the west texas index up about $100.

 

The only way we can be energy independent in 5 yrs is to shut off the power grid and tell everyone to stay home and starve. We are constantly getting bombarded with new regs that is going to make it difficult to turn a profit in the patch.

 

if the price of WTI will go back up to about $100/bbl then the profit will come along nicely. We've seen a drop in fuel prices despite "$100/bbl" oil because the price of WTI is around $80.
yeah, I know there are a few regulations, thats the fun part.

 

The thing about an oil boom is it takes 8-10 years to put into play , O killed it within 30 days of going into office.. We have lost many services, crews have moved on and equipment auctioned..

 

the equipment is still around, just under contract elsewhere.
a lot of our GoM equipment went to Brazil or Asia.

Just gotta get the corporate AFE BS process moving. Nothing discussing a field only to find out some VP doesn't wanna risk his bonus this quarter by spending a million dollars so you can make 2500 / day for the next 5 years.

 

You need to come to CO we have a lot of stacked out equipment that was auctioned off and remains stacked out.

 

we ship alot of our equipment around the world depending on who's hot. right now, alot if going to asia. A couple jobs I know of going on for Petrobras are US rig, there are several rigs operating in Malaysia that were in the gulf 4 years ago. Not sure about land jobs. I know a bunch is stacked (like I said, rig count is down 10% from last year). I know permits gotta be issued and several states are cutting back on their BLM leases.

 

There are three sides to every story... There is Albertas side, there is BC's side and then the ever moving target is what is really going on. It's that third side that is the most difficult to figure out.

Face it, Enbridge hasn't had the most stellar record in the world. Pretty much all the risk on the enviromental side is with BC and not Alberta. Considering we just had a 7.7 magnitude earthquake in the Queen Charlotte Islands that also rattled Prince Rupert. Perhaps that line does need a second look.

I am all for exporting the oil. I get the idea it would be good for Canada. On the surface I would support the notion of a pipeline. But I also don't want an area I go to ruined as a result of a spill.

Sadly, ~any~ mention of a pipeline in BC now results in a negative reaction. That isn't right either...

 

Where to start.......If there was a break in a pipeline in BC the response would be TO BAD SO SAD. I am glad the people will stand up to BC politicians the residents are sick and tired of taking it up the posterior distal excretory orifice. hydro prime example they sold power to California at market price they did not pay and what happened did we turn the power off NO BC people payed for it. DO something for Canada BS the feds treat this province like a dumping ground we are taxed to death from both ends. when I see the price of fuel drop by half then I might think about saying yes to a pipeline. so take your dam money and fly that Chinese oil out for the life of me quit giving our (CANADIAN) natural resources away for cheap... don't mean to rant but this subject just makes me so gosh darned angry!

 

They say its going to create jobs in BC . this is another load of C*** A bunch of workers on the pipeline then they are done . More workers to set up the port then they are gone . there will be a few full time workers a the loading dock and marine workers on the tugs you want real jobs build a refinery and sell processed products theres where the money is for workers and THIS province KEEP IT IN HOUSE

 

Good morning Dieslebuilder and Westcoast, we are all a community here and as Westcoast pointed out, there are multiple sides to every story. I am going to write this very neutrally, none of us have ended up in rage posts like some political posts can degrade to. I can actually see and understand your point of view. Let me just try to explain equally lucidly the view from the other side of the Rockies. We as Canadians enjoy one of the best lifestyles in the entire world. It isn't perfect and we all have things we wish we're different or better but on the whole, we do pretty well. The foundation of a lot of that good lifestyle is cheap and easy access to energy - be that electricity, natural gas, gasoline, diesel for our trucks etc. Unfortunately, access to energy requires energy infrastructure. We in Canada have been spoiled into believing you can have one without the other. The Alberta gov't started explaining to Albertans years ago that we don't have enough electrical capacity in southern Alberta. That means we either need to stop growing (not allow any new citizens), add generating capacity in the southern part of the province or add transmission lines from the generators near Edmonton. Well, guess what, no one liked any of those ideas. The transmission lines were assessed to have the least impact and the best economics. After a bunch of NIMBY protest, none of the projects went ahead. Guess what, we had rolling blackouts in the southern part of the province and everyone was furious. Back to my original point, you can't have energy without energy infrastructure. Oil and natural gas are no different. I live near Calgary in the heart of oil and natural gas country. The fields around me are dotted with gas and oil well heads and there is a big natural gas collection battery 2 miles away across a field. Do I think it is shangrila?? Absolutely not BUT I like having a heated house (natural gas), I drive a car (gasoline) and a truck (diesel) so I accept that it is a give and take situation. If you want energy, you have to have energy infrastructure. The final point in my commentary here is financial. Yes, part of the purpose for these pipelines is to sell oil to oversee companies at a pretty healthy profit. Selling things at a profit is how capitalism works. The way our provincial and federal system works, the provinces who make more help those who make less through a system of federal transfer payments. Alberta pays a pretty significant chunk of money every year to then Feds which is then redistributed to provinces who make less.

Ok, I am starting to ramble a bit. I realize that I am probably never going to change your mind, that is okay, you aren't going to change mine either. At least we are able to discuss this calmly and rationally and recognize that there are multiple sides to every issue / discussion.

 

Sorry that I was not able to get it all out, I am in favor of progress I know this needs to get done but this country is exporting to many raw resources and we ( Canadians ) are losing out on secondary industry's ( logs to lumber ) I have lived in BC ( born here) long enough to see jobs disappear in favor of the all mighty buck and are so called government is missing the point rolling over and selling out the next thing they will do is to start selling off our water buy that time I hope the people in this province revolt!!!

 

Learn from our mistakes down here...

Too many unqualified people making decisions, then are not held accountable for, then gaining popularity through experience and misrepresentation (read: Lies).