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Arm teachers, NRA official suggests
Gun group leader: ‘Everything’s on table’ for making schools safe
The Associated Press
Updated: 7:01 p.m. ET March 25, 2005PHOENIX -

All options should be considered to prevent rampages like the Minnesota school shooting that took 10 lives — including making guns available to teachers, a top National Rifle Association leader said Friday.

 

If a teacher has a CCW and the proper training, then yes,
he/she should be allowed to have it on him/her at school.

Only if the above conditions exist though.

Proper CCW regulations would always apply:
Handgun must be concealed and in the permit holders control at all times.

If a teacher doesn't want to carry a weapon, then so be it.

There would be nothing saying that those carrying had to declare such.

This way, the evil doers would never know who was and wasn't carrying,
just like it is out in real life.


phox

 

I haven't got a problem with a teacher carrying concealed. A lot of these school shootings could have been stopped by an armed citizen. Every law abidding citizen has a right to defend themselves. Whether I am in my place of employment or at home, I would want to have the means to defend myself, and I wouldn't blame a teacher if they wanted to carry. -Steve

 

I can understand letting those with experience and permits carry.
Most teachers I've seen though are far from what I'd consider Gun-Savvy.
It sounds like a horrible accident waiting to happen.

And I can't wait to see what the Brady Bunch is going to say about that one.

If they're going to hire and post Guards, why not hire experienced ones & arm them.

 

I carry concealed often myself but I don't think I like the idea of guns in school. I think that opens up the chance for more violence as any available weapon can be seized and used by the bad guys.

Also no clear lane of fire as no matter which way you shoot there is going to be some students in harms way. I just don't see this as a viable option. I was thinking about this the other night and I believe the best solution would be tall fences around the schools with only 1 way in and out through a metal detecter and an armed guard.

I don't mean not to have emergency exits out of the building in case of fire, I just mean a secure area immediately around the school grounds. Yeah I know it sounds like a prison and I don't really like the thought of that either, but something needs to be done.

I know this is not going to be easy.......,

 

It is the same issue as arming pilots with sidearms. Not every pilot/teacher will have one. Not every pilot/teacher SHOULD have one. With proper training, I do not see a reason why teachers should not be allowed to carry concealed sidearms .
You can go on and say, 'the bad guy might get the gun.' That is always a possibility. But with proper training, that has a very slim to no chance of happening. The Air Marshals have sidearms- has one ever been taken away by a passenger? A bad guy is not going to use a weapon that someone else has. If they have intent of commiting a crime, they are going to use the tools they bring. In the case of school shootings, this is very true.
In the case of the shooting on the Indian Reservation, a security guard was also shot.

 

The guard should have been armed.

Halt, or I'll have to call someone on my radio" isn't much of a deterrent.

If the situation is properly addressed at the door, the hallways and classrooms won't be an issue.

The news reported that the kid stepped out of the vehicle toting a shotgun.
A radio is NOT what I'd consider an equally effective weapon.

 

either way its scary, i am all for concealed weapons, but i would have to seriously think about letting teachers have one.

 

Where's Arnold S when you need him??? Ther definitely needs to be a more effective way of stopping those crazed idiots wacked out on drugs. How do you force morals on individuals that want caous and domination over the inocent, defenceless, and meek. and accomplish it without turning our schools into concentration camps with armed guards in towers arround the perimiters and useing razor wire inbetween? That would be a learning experience for sure. There has to be some people of authority that have guns and the ability to subdue those crazed idiots without turning schools into a policed state and atmosphere. I'm in favor of letting trained people in the schools that carry a gun. This would be a good job for the people that get out of the military and want to teach. These types of changes are inevitable and will be difficult to work out. There are no easy answers. Our kids need to be safe!!!

 

Actually, there have been way too many law enforcement officers injured or killed with their own firearms - the courtroom shooting in Georgia is just one recent example. Proper training goes a long way to help prevent that, but when the feces hits the fan things can happen way too fast. I've had a few fights making arrests that could have turned out pretty ugly.

I'll agree that in some of the school shootings, having either properly trained armed guards or teachers may have cut the losses, but I really don't think that is the answer. In reality, there is nothing that can be done to stop every sicko from going on a rampage. Look at the case a few years back where the kids pulled the fire alarm, then picked off the students as they came outside.

 

I bet an armed teacher could be way more disgruntled than a postal worker. There are crazy whackos in every part of life. How about shock collars for all the kids. (remember like on star trek) . If they act crazy. SHOCK EM DOWN. I joke, but it is to sad to see these kids die in school like this. I dont have an answer.

 

Everytime a child gets into trouble I ask, " where are the parents".
Some teachers need to be armed. This is now apparent in our world. Very sad.
Some class mates had to know this young man was really troubled.

 

I'm not so sure that's a bad idea. With the proper training and then recurrent training etc etc. Why not? Anyone can be trained in the proper use of a firearm, so why not teachers? Not all will want to have one, but those who do... why not?

And, in the process, maybe it'll reverse the trend of vilifying guns as evil incarnate. And put the evil label back on the people who are using them for... well, evil.

 

I'm okay with teachers or anyone else for that matter carrying as long as they are legal and competent to do so. But most teachers I've run into as well as most of the ones my wife works with are a bunch of lefties and don't care for guns anyway.

Vulcan

 

Problem is, most state laws prohibit the carrying of a firearm on school grounds. Even if you're licensed to carry. Only exception is law enforcement.