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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Good CAD Programs?

Since I planning on buying a 2wd Chevy at the end of summer and I want to lower it and bag it. That requires me to do a whole custom rear suspension for it and some modifications to the front suspension. What I wanted to know is if anyone had any suggestions on a good CAD program, which i could use to get a rough idea of idea of what I need to fab for it. I want to find one now so I have some time to get familier with it and learn how to use it. I don't really need any high tech one just something that I can design the parts with and get a basic idea of what I need to make.

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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I've used Cad programs daily since the late 80's. There's a magazine out called Cadalyst which tested some budget 3D Cad programs a while back. The article is here: Budget Cad

Have fun!
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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When I was doing CAD/CAM about 15 years ago, we used Ashlar Vellup. I still have an old version but the updated version is here. http://www.ashlar.com/sections/produ.../graphite.html

It's a real cool program for 3D design.

Autocad is also nice but it's not as easy to use as Vellum.

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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quadrant pad, pencil and some good scales. otherwise youll still be "learning the program" a year from now.

just my .02, been doing solid modeling for 20 years.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by checkster
quadrant pad, pencil and some good scales. otherwise youll still be "learning the program" a year from now.

just my .02, been doing solid modeling for 20 years.
Checkster,
I never thought of just drawing it myself,when i first thought of what i was gonna do the first thing to pop in my head was, use a CAD program. I might just go about drawing it my self it is probly cheaper then $150-$300.

Thanks for the sugg. on programs,i might end up getting a demo program and just mess around with that some.

Thanks
Jeff
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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I use Autocad at work. The ME's (I'm just a stupid EE) use Pro-E. Probably too much of a learning curve and $$$$.
Check these guys out: emachineshop.com
You can download their CAD program for free and play with it. If you want, you can then send them your CAD package and they will find a place to get the part fabbed for you.

*disclaimer: I have never used them, just tried out the CAD s/w

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Pro/E about 1/2 the time, AutoCAD the rest...

Pro/E sux0r for wiring and electrical work.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Check these guys out: emachineshop.com
You can download their CAD program for free and play with it. If you want, you can then send them your CAD package and they will find a place to get the part fabbed for you.

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Rob,
I will try and download their program,but I am not looking for a place to get the parts fabbed. I just looking for someway to get the dimensions and the basic look of the part, I found a place that i can order all my steel tubing that I can get it shipped to me up to 8-10ft lengths. I will just fab everything together if it comes to a point that i don't feel safe welding the parts then I just get my dad to do it,hes been welding since he was my age and has been a Industrial/Commercial welder for 8 years.

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ddge6spdRam
Checkster,
I never thought of just drawing it myself,when i first thought of what i was gonna do the first thing to pop in my head was, use a CAD program. I might just go about drawing it my self it is probly cheaper then $150-$300.

Thanks for the sugg. on programs,i might end up getting a demo program and just mess around with that some.

Thanks
Jeff
The Cad programs people are talking about are a lot more than $150-300/seat. More in the neighborhood of $5K and up. They've typically got a fairly long learning curve. I use AutoCad and MicroStation pretty much exclusively right now. (Try running them at the same time! ) Having a workstation like this helps.



You can download trial versions of some of the cheaper ones and play around. Start with simple stuff until you get going.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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The mechanical boys here use Unigraphics, SDRC, and IDEAS, but I think they're up there as far as per seat cost goes. Don't know if they have any trialware available.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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I use AutoCAD, Inventor, Mechanical Desktop on a daily basis...they all have their pro's and con's.

berner is right about pricing...I think for a seat of Inventor...which includes the other two programs I mentioned is over $10,000.

That dual monitor setup is sweet!! There are a couple of engineers here that have that...but most of us...like me, are stuck with a single monitor.

Those dual monitor setups are real nice when your playing games at work on them!!
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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been doing cad for 4 years now...used to have microstation, now im strictly an Autocad user, but most of my work is dodne using cad-pipe which draws pipe and HVAC ductwork in 3d
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Berner: looks like you do some in depth work. What is it that you do?

I work for a mobile home company so my work is childs play compared to what you do. Scary thing to me is, that when i graduated from tech school i was prolly on that level, but after 4 years of not using all the doo dads that AutoCAD has, i have forgot a lot of it.

Those screen shots appear to be the layout of a building or set of buildings.. How far off base am I?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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A real great 3d program that's really intuitive and that I've started using in architectural and structural design is Sketchup. You can get 8 hrs of trial time on it to see if it works for you at sketchup.com. The total package to buy is around $400 unless you're a student, in which case you can get it for $49 per year.

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