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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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Armalite M15A2..

I know a guy who is a gun nut. He buy's and sells like a sporting goods store.
He offered me a new Armalite M15A2 for $600.00 I really don't know much about the brand.
What do you guy's think?
Worst case, I could sell it if I didn't like it.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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It might be to good to be true, I would have to check, but I think thats about half retail value. Armalite is one of the top manufactures out there. I have had a few like em alot. Have fun.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Nope- he has them. He actually has three to sell, but offered me one at a good buy- I used to take him hunting, maybe he figures he owes me one..
I'm really not much of an assault style weapons guy- but I think I could make some coin on this one.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Depending on the model, they retail for about $900.00 and up. If it is new in the box, $600.00 is a good deal. If it is used, that is the low end of the going rate (again, depending on model).
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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$600 is a good price if it is an Armalite and if it is new. That is a good price also if if it is gently used.

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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Armalite's are great AR's. Even if your not into "semi's", buy it and take it to the range. You'll love it. Most AR's bone stock will shoot MOA or less w/ the right load and in the hands of a capable rifleman. -Steve
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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Does it have a flash hider and bayonet lug?...Resale value on the old "post-ban" models is somewhat diminished...Ben
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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according to this it's a steal.



http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/rifles/m15a2.htm
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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IMHO the AR-15's are way cool weapons, but I'm saving and looking for an AR-10. That is a .308, and again IMHO a much better buy all around. From past experience, the .223 rounds from an AR-15 tend to start tumbling out past 450-500 yards.
Still, $600 for a NIB AR-15....go for it.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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There will always be a controversy about cartridges and bullet caliber/weight/velocity etc... but usually a larger caliber bullet will expend more of it's kinetic energy in the body it hits and has greater knock down value.

A .223 may be a great round for punching holes in things but a .308 is better for knocking things down. The .177 caliber may have a screaming velocity but such a lightweight round will have little stopping power. A .45 ACP has a relatively slow velocity but has greater stopping/knock down power.

I've heard that .223's will tumble and also cause a hydro shock in soft tissue but then so will a larger caliber. The .223 round was selected because more rounds could be carried and it also tended to wound rather that kill. This is a plus on the battle field since a wounded man takes out another combatant to care for him while a dead man doesn't.

It's the big rock/little rock thing.

Bullet placement is always a good thing but it's better to hit the target hard and often. If you have time to scope out your game and place the bullet exactly where you want then you can be less picky about your cartrige. But if it's 3 am and dark a .45 ACP is better for killing an intruder. Different situations demand different solutions.

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Moose- .223's with the correct bullet weight to twist ratio will not tumble. 1-12" twist ratio (most bolt actions and early, M16 and 16A1's, pre-A2 AR's) will stabilize bullets 55 grains or less. Any heavier, and the bullet will tumble or yaw. Conversely, and in particular, AR which are 1-7" thru 1-9" twist ratio are intended for heavier bullets. 1-9" will stabilize 55 thru 63 gr bullets. To accurately fire any projectile of a heavier weight you'll need a 1-7" (which is what military A2's and M4's are) or a 1-8" twist ratio (most of the "match" AR barrels have a 1-8" twist). I have done extensive shooting at full distance with both the M16/M4 series and AR's and with the correct ammo have never had a round key-hole. However, a close-to-shot-out barrel will key-hole the target. My educated guess would be either the barrel is shot out, has a nicked crown, or the wrong bullet weight was used with regard to the twist ratio of the rifling. -Steve
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I found out today it is a "like new" Pre-Ban carbine model.
I'm going to buy it- worst case I could turn it and make some money.
Thanks for the help guys.
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