HELP! If you have an EMERGENCY situation with your truck, or you need IMMEDIATE technical help, use this board.

torque converter unlocking

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 06:27 PM
  #1  
kwillis-a's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: palm bay,florida
torque converter unlocking

torque converter keeps locking and unlocking at hiway speeds(65-75) need some sugestions on what would cause this to happen
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 06:46 PM
  #2  
RCW's Avatar
RCW
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,440
Likes: 0
There are a couple areas to check. I would probable check the Throttle Position Sensor first, then the Throttle Valve Cable.

The throttle position sensor on this year is responsible for determining throttle linkage angle, and creating the impedance necessary for the PCM to signal the torque converter solenoid to lock or unlock. The other item to check is the torque converter lockup solenoid, it is in the transmission and can lose connectivity - but check this last.

If the TPS is functioning properly, check the adjustment and condition of your Throttle Valve Cable that runs between the transmission and the injection pump throttle linkage. Generally you will find one end or the other cracked where it connects the inner cable to the linkage arm or bellcrank, or a bayonet clip on the outside housing on either end that has worked loose.

If neither the TPS or Throttle Valve Cable are the culprit, then look to the lockup solenoid and the wiring that connects to that.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:21 AM
  #3  
kerryneb's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: western nebraska
One more thing to check for is brake switch adjustment... mine was set on a hair trigger and whenever I hit a bump, on came the brake light and the torque converter came unlocked.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:41 AM
  #4  
DrDiesel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
From: Kalifornia
Question

Brake switch would be my fist check. You don`t drive two footed do you...
You know one on the gas and one on the brake.
If you active the brake switch while driving it kicks O/D lockup out.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:55 PM
  #5  
b.lee's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 624
Likes: 2
From: S.E., Michigan
what about line pressure in the trans?
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 08:14 PM
  #6  
kwillis-a's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: palm bay,florida
thanks guys, don't know about line pressure but now i have somewhere to start with, I'll check it out and when i fix the problem i will let yall know what it was.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 10:33 PM
  #7  
ticki2's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
From: NH
I know this is elementary , but make sure you're not low on trans fluid .
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 01:19 AM
  #8  
XLR8R's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,785
Likes: 3
From: Pattonville, Texas
I don't think the ATF level would affect the electric lockup solenoid from functioning correctly.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 06:55 AM
  #9  
ticki2's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
From: NH
Originally Posted by XLR8R
I don't think the ATF level would affect the electric lockup solenoid from functioning correctly.
I could be wrong , but it seemed to me it did on my 47RH
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 11:54 AM
  #10  
XLR8R's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,785
Likes: 3
From: Pattonville, Texas
Low ATF level could certainly feel like the converter isn't locking, I was just pointing out that it shouldn't affect it electrically.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 03:20 PM
  #11  
OLD94's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
The TPS on my truck did the same thing. Shifted out of gear at hwy speeds. NAPA has the part and it takes about 5 minutes to replace it. There are all kinds of remedies, spraying the linkage with contact cleaner, adding a potentiometer, etc. The quickest and simplest is to replace the thing. They aren't cheap. About $180 at NAPA, $220 at dealer.

J
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 05:29 PM
  #12  
pull's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
I'm having the same problem. I checked and cleaned everything replaced the tps, new brake switch, and today a new lockup soleniod. sometimes it works for the first 5 miles in the morning then it's done for the rest of the day. any ideas?
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 06:57 PM
  #13  
amartinson's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 717
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis, MN
Clean all grounds (both batteries and the ecm). Make sure the wires running over the alternator are not rubbing on it.

I did that and eliminated this problem on my truck.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:08 AM
  #14  
mr T's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,488
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX, Toronto, ON
adjust ur brake pedal switch first...it costs nothing and takes 3 seconds....after that the number one reason for what u desrcibe is a bad tps sensor...they're not cheap so clean all ur connections...check for exposed wires and cables that may touch metal...and check that brake switch
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:53 AM
  #15  
54larry's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by mr T
adjust ur brake pedal switch first...it costs nothing and takes 3 seconds....after that the number one reason for what u desrcibe is a bad tps sensor...they're not cheap so clean all ur connections...check for exposed wires and cables that may touch metal...and check that brake switch

First i fixed my TPS which was loose, and that reduced the incidence of the unlocking, THEN I found out the pedal switch was jaked. cost about 20, installed. 5 minutes.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:05 PM.