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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Possible bad fuel situation, need advice.

I posted this elsewhere on this site, but thought this could be a better place.

I fueled up @ 5 hours ago and the truck was running fine for @ 3 miles, then suddenly started smoking and popping, basically it died under hard throttle and I thought a connection I'd had problems with came loose again, until I realized it was still running when I pulled off the road.

Basically what it does now is it idles fine, but won't accelerate above @ 1,200 rpms and smokes like crazy. It also pops and carries on if I try to go beyond 1200 rpms.

The engine is a '91 with a VE pump, which I installed into a '96 body and I turned up the fuel by grinding the screw.

I've put some of the 911 additive in thinking maybe it was watered and drained the filter, but no luck so far.

Last week the factory fuel pump went out on me in Texas, so I added in an electric pump, which has worked great.
I did leave the factory-style fuel pump and filter in place, just bypassed the block pump.

Any help is appreciated.

Mark.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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you made it 3miles that about as far as you can go with bad fuel. probably water. with elec fuel pump disconnect supply line and let it pump the stuff out. if not plumb up a pump and stick down filler neck but you have to make sure you get to the bottom of tank. or an old school siphon hose. i have done this on diesels and gas engines. also need to clean/flush lines at least to the filter or ip. the very best way though is dropping and cleaning tank cause you find that the water might be muddy. once tank is empty or close to empty. then add fresh/clean fuel and pick a additive that removes moisture. and dump in tank-i usually double up on moisture additive and use a regular dose for a few tanks. also replace filters and would bee a good idea to replace filters a 5-10 tanks down the road.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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oh if not done already get back down to the place you got fuel from now and establish the fact to them that you suspect bad fuel, if they dont sell alot of diesel go ahead and buy a gallon or so and pump into a container that you can inspect that may help if its cloudy or muddy looking you got em. i think most of these ive done the fuel station has paid for damages. plus if a week or two down the road if your pump or fuel pickup sock need replaced they should pick up the bill. if they are honest and reputable they should pay a professional shop to do the repairs. i dont know how much they would pay you to do your own work. they should at least give you money for filters, fuel and additives etc... sorry for long post and good luck
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Hope you didn't accidentally fill up with gasoline...
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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Sounds like a gasoline problem
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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My Mom filled up her Cadillac with premium gas at a truck stop several years ago. Made it 1 mile before it quit. It was towed to the dealership where upon inspection of the tank it was full of diesel. By the time the dealer called the station they had already figured out that the premium gas holding tank had been accidentally filled with diesel. They paid for the towing and all repairs.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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replace fuel filter
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Sorry I let this slide, wasn't CPU accessible for a bit.
Turns out it WAS a severe dosage of H2o, so I hit it with a double shot of the 911 stuff and kept draining the filter w/the electric pump, finally got it to clear out, then swapped the filter out.

Only 2 times have I ever seen a diesel run blue-ish white smoke like that. This time on mine, and another time I saw a guy on the roadside and stopped to help.
He'd also pumped the Bio-Garbage inadvertently, and in winter time, as well.

For all the hoopla over bio-diesel, it sure seems to be more maintenance and hassles than it's worth.

FWIW, this incident took place at a Pilot Truck Stop in Clear Lake, Iowa.
"We've NEVER had troubles with our Bio-Diesel in the 3 year's I've worked here!" To quote their night Manager.

Yeah, right. Not that she heard about.

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Funny you guys mention the gasoline possibility...

Back on one dark night in '04 I filled up at a BP station in Kansas, stuck the GREEN nozzle in, went around checking oil, checking tires, load securement, etc, then went to top the tank off. Then I smelled it. GASOLINE fumes. THEN is when I noticed the diesel pumps over under an unlit canopy across the lot.
Never ran the truck, called the manager of the station and we pumped it all back out, of course he charged me for the diesel that I filled back up with and wouldn't let me have the gas (25 gallons, with maybe 2 gallons of diesel mixed in), citing that it was a Hazmat issue for me to transport it.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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BP was sued by someone who gassed up their diesel because of the green nozzle. Court tossed it out saying too bad, there is no legal requirement that green nozzles dispense diesel and only diesel.

Maybe there should be.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Hey guys, I have made the "green nozzle mistake" as well. I never use BP because there are none near me. I went out of town and stopped to fill up at the BP . I had 20 gallons in before I smelled the gas fumes.
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