I have had a ford ranger with a "fuel efficiant" 2.9l gasser and it was the worst engine ever put into a truck. After 40k new long block. There is a toy with a 22re (i think) that was a lowrider show truck 2wd auto. My roommate's buddy bought it and tore out the stereo, flared the fenders himself, converted it to standard, put new chromoly arms in the front. No radio, no A/C, no speedo. This thing has over 300k on it and runs like a champ. It has had half a ton of sand in the back and the engine diddn't even flinch( although the frame was sitting on the axle. That little truck has never failed to start and has been used as a chase truck in the Baja 1000. This truck has been worked to death and kept on runnun.

This video made me want a yota. If they made a 1-ton diesel I'd buy it even though it will cost 60k.

 

I have owned 3 Toyota pickups, and 2 Dodges. The one in my sig, and a 98 1/2 ton 4wd gasser. Hands down the reliablity and service kudos go to Toyota. If you disagree, you've never owned one...obviously. The only reason I bought the truck in my sig, CUMMINS. Yes I am a die hard cummins man. I HATE Chrysler. They were just smart enough to pay Cummins a lot of money to put that motor in these trucks. To put it simply, I would buy a Suzuki pickup with a Cummins motor in it before I would buy any other non Cummins pickup (except for Toyota mind you!) in the world. Where Cummins goes, I go. If they go to Toyota, then we will finally get the best of both worlds.

 

While looking up info on this subject, i found this . these guys aren't that bright. They think ford owns cummins (not new to us) and that banks makes diesel engines . Well, look for yourself.

 

that thread was difficult to follow, I got buttonhooked every time I read the next post. so yamaha is making diesels for banks who is selling them to toyota overseas labeled something as a hino, toyota doesn't want to use cummins here because ford owns them and they don't want to mess up the business relationship that dodge has with owning yamaha, right??

 

There was a video posted on here about a year or so ago produced by top gear. They took an older 80's model euro toyota diesel 4x4 and beat the crap out of it... drove it into the ocean, parked it on top of a building that was demoed etc.( fell like 14 stories or more) and still started. Wish that I could find it.

 

This one?

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=15438

 

I was in Guatemala last week and I swear on a stack of whatever I saw a full size very new looking diesel Toyota pickup! I tried to remember the model but got busy with other stuff. I've tried searching the net but haven't found anything yet. By the way, they sell diesel in all of their stations down there. Gas was the same price as it is here but diesel averaged right at $3.00 US. I've bought two new cars in my life, my Dodge and an 87 Toyota with a 22R. That one went 270k when I sold it and it still ran well. I'm hoping to beat that record with this one. Time will tell.

 

.... That's just plain funny right there, don't care who ya' are! .... nuff said..

 

I think that's the one but for some reason the link won't work for me

 

I am pretty amazed at the response this post has.. I would like to see a smaller version light duty diesel truck, much like a couple of the videos on the post, available to us folks in the US.. Maybe Cummins should put thier diesel in the Toyota truck... Also does anybody know why you can't buy a Suburban with a DIESEL in it???

 

Yeah man i know. you used to be able to find burbans with the chevy diesel. and what is GCCA?

 

I wish I could get a tacoma with a little tiny diesel in it. hopefully stuff like the jettas/liberties will help the small diesel stuff catch on.

if anyone's up for swapping, diesel 'burbs are a dime a dozen...I think a mildly modded 4BT would put out the same power and use half the fuel as the GM 6.2 or 6.5 turd-o-diesel. or a twin 6bt would work too

 

Has anyone actually driven a TOY Diesel. I have in Australia. A Toy Landcruiser, TOY Hilux along with Mitsubishi and Nissan. I think I'll stick to the Dodge Cummins thanks

 

The topic here is a Cummins in a Toyota. Not the plain Jane diesels they've had. We're saying that if a Toyota had a Cummins motor in it, we'd be interested.
Besides the durability factor, think about a new Tacoma with a small Cummins motor, swap in a solid front axle. What a trail rig that would be!

 

A couple of excerpts from an interview with a Toyota Exec

Toyota has built its reputation on bulletproof quality. How do you address that as you grow?
As we create more capacity, we've got to achieve better quality. The expectation is better quality, not less. So as we double the capacity and add more plants, they have to have better quality than when we had one plant or two or three. We have to design that into the cars. We have to have better value. Be able to contend with growth and maintain the value that got us where we are.

Next model year, Toyota introduces its next-generation full-size Tundra pickup truck. You've built a Texas plant with significantly more capacity than what you've had. Yet you are going into a very brand loyal market. You don't think this is a cakewalk, do you?
...let product speak for itself. I'm not going to tell you what you think. Absolutely not. No way do we think this is a cakewalk.

...Our capacity is about 200,000 units a year; we're doing 115,000 this year with the current Tundra. It's growth but in a segment growing. Trucks and SUVS are 3 million sales a year total; full-size trucks are 2 million. So 200,000 is a fairly small component. We're now getting about 4.7 percent market share with Tundra and 14 percent in total industry share. So we have room to grow there.

Will your sales be limited because you lack a diesel engine and a super-duty version?
We're studying those as extensions of the product line. Our strategy is one step at a time. We do it and learn ourselves. We grow our own technology; we don't acquire it. It takes more time but leads to technology that has bulletproof quality, is more efficient and a better value. Over time, if we can prove our capability, we'll move up and evaluate extending the product line.

You said early in your interview that your goal in your new job was to make Toyota as successful five years from now as it is now. What is your vision for Toyota in North America in five years?
...I saw an article today that the Ford Mustang has 65-percent local content while our U.S.-built Sienna minivan has 90 percent. More of that will occur.

...For instance, at our San Antonio, Texas, supplier park [suppliers to the new Tundra plant], we have 26 major suppliers who have taken partners from the economically depressed South San Antonio. The economic benefit is not some company that comes from another state or another country but a high portion of the benefit resides in the local San Antonio business community and economy.







Granted, these aren't the diesel ones...but I'm sure the look will be based on something like these.