Nothin Runs Like A Deere With A CAT!

 

I work for Cat get to hear a lot of interesting things from the big boys. Toyota just built a new truck factory in San Antonio TX. Cat just acame out with a 6.6L Common Rail engine at the end of last year. the plant fo rthe engine was also built in San Antonio. Toyota probably will not put izuzu in new 1 ton trucks because Chevy already has it in there 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, and that will probably cause conflict. Cat started getting interested in smaller truck market a couple of years ago. There is less then 100 lbs difference between the Cat 6.6 and Cummins 6.7 and the cat puts out more torque. Horsepower is a little less but not much. Cat will be in small trucks sooner or later. Its just a matter of time.

 

mmmmmmm...Cat 6.6 CR.... smells like a "Perka-pillar" to me...

 

Some still seam to push the idea of toyota going with the Duramax. Well THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. GM owns all of the rights and manufacturing of the Duramax, (Including the name!) not Isuzu. So toyota has 0 chance of using that engine.

Has has signed with Cat for the Nascar racing team, so it is possible that this is their first step in getting a Cat diesel. But there is no way of them getting the Duramax!

 

Do you think Toyota would lower themselves enough to use a CAT?

 

As a product rep for a Cat delaer (electric power) I will avoid the whole Cat/Cummins war here.

What I will say is that emmisions requirements (tier 3 this year and tier 4 in 2010) will change the market across the board. Cat has looked into the small truck market in the past and decided that they would NOT enter into that market. Things are always subject to re-evaluation though... If anyone saw the Power Wagon that was on the show circuit several years ago - it was Cat powered.

Most of this info applies to larger engines (HD and MD), but "pick-up" engines are heading this way as well:
Cat, Cummins, Mercedes, Detroit, (insert manufacturer name here) are all working hard to meet the new requirments. All OEM's aside from Cat started down the EGR path several years ago. By 2010 estimates are that 30 to 35% of the exhaust gasses will be re-introduced into the intake stream to meet emmisions requirements. This volume of EGR will require an EGR cooler in addition to your radiator, intercooler, etc. Simply put, you start to run out of room under the hood. You will also find diesel-particulate filters (DPF's) that are similiar to a catalytic converter and will likely be required to service/replace at 150K intervals. As engine accesory bulk increases, the truck market WE enjoy on this board will be looking for viable alternatives. An emmisions compliant engine that won't fit into a pick-up will do no one any good.

 

I've been saying for a few years now enjoy it while you can. Soon, it will be a sealed hood and you will not even know what the engine looks like let alone BOMB it.

BTW, we have a 3612 (think it's 3.5 mW) at work for loss of all offsite power (nuke plant) and that is one sweet machine. Smaller than the old EMD's but another 1000 hp. Keep up the good work there at Cat.

 

And let's be honest, who couldn't use another 1000hp?

 

nope its actually a full Cat engine.

 

Lower themselves, Cat is the leading truck engine manufacture. They definintly wouldnt be lowering themselves.

 

I know that, what I meant was why would a Japanese truck maker stoop so low as to use an American engine? I'd sooner push my truck than drive a Toyota and I won't tell you why on here.

 

I have a pretty good idea why.

 

It had to do with purchasing one some several years ago.

 

there are (2) different Cat 6.6L engines.. The one I saw recently has a common rail fuel system on it... I was SURE thinking it was "Perka-Pillar"... Haven't got down to the specifics yet and really studied the engine yet as we have none in out territory(industrial)..