go back and re-read it... and/or turbine wheels for a diesel... so... a chambered muffler OR a turbine wheel on a diesel is acceptable... obviously a chambered muffler AND a turbine wheel is acceptable... hence "and/or"


and yes, if you are exceeding the sound ordinance, you can be cited as such, but a turbo IS considered a muffler in TX.

not sure where Cresson is, but I'm always surprised when I hear about people in TX having problems with running a straight pipe. I never had a problem in the big city DFW area. Down where I live now, you can't shake a stick without hitting a few straight piped diesels... They're everywhere.

If you're having problems w/ noise complaints, just run a straight or miter cut stack... it'll be quieter than regular straight pipe. a pair of stacks will be even quieter.

 

Cresson is on the sw edge of DFW.

btw.. I never had a probelm, but had a buddy get popped in Tyler of all places by a local for his straight pipe.

 

Im in stephenville for college. Its nearly an all diesel town, with a few cars/suvs, and the basketball players driving 'chevy ridin high', impalas lifted on 30s. Their the only ones who would say anything, but They have their loud stereos so it doesnt go over too well.

 

I think a certain part of it comes w/ age too... thankfully, the older you get, the less you get hassled... so there is ONE thing that's actually good about getting older

 

1stGen545 - Soon? Can you say DPF? It's already happening. The tree huggers are already effecting us. Probably be a record number of fires out west this year due to ... nobody knows where it originated. Except maybe the 6.4L FlamingStroke that drove through the area a couple hours earlier and knew he was having engine problems during that time. Or the horse rancher who burned up 3/4 of his ranch and others as well ... just out tending the horses, or mending fences or whatever.

 

JyRO I realy ment on the older trucks but you are right about all that. The prob with straight pipe Its that like rbrettctd said every body around here has them and most try to make as much noise threw town as they can and it gets taken out on all of us. Gatesvill and Stephenvill are two of the worst towns for it. Its becous of people (young and old trust me) around here act like donkeys (you know what I mean?) and get every one mad at every truck that comes threw town thinking we all do it and if you get on it even just a little and a cop hears you he thinks you are one of the guys that do it all the time. The 3rd gens are the worst.

 

Im thinking of putting a muffler behind a cutout...an electric one that I can just kick out when I want to blow out a rice burners windows or need the extra flow when pulling/racing.

 

Um. I read that and I don't see where it says a turbo qualifies as a muffler. What it says is that the muffler is connected to either the exhaust manifold or the turbo. The turbo does quiet things down some but not enough. I have a straight pipe too but I don't flaunt it. I would suspect we'd get cited for excessive smoke before noise but then they'd tack on NO Muffler just for grins.

Edwin

 

I contend a muffler is a chambered device for receiving exhaust from an internal combustion engine

AND/OR

it's a turbine for receiving exhaust gas from a diesel engine

take the "and" out and just say "or" (since either is acceptable)

BOTH are effective in reducing noise

the turbo is a muffler... wether or not it meets acceptable local noise levels is another issue

 

1stGen - I see your point. I'm not sure what if anything tree huggers could do about our older trucks. But they could sure try.

rbrettctd - Couldn't you (and you guys that must have inspections) put a flanged section in the exhaust? Unbolt and bolt in the muffler for inspection. Then unbolt the muffler, and bolt in the straight section for normal use. Sounds easy enough, but what do I know?

Forrest - I agree with your understanding. Seems like that "and/or" was placed there for a reason and that both words are applicable individually.

 

The way it is written states that


Muffler is a device consisting of

a series of chambers or baffle plates or other mechanical design for the purpose of receiving exhaust gas from an internal combustion engine

And/or

turbine wheels for the purpose of receiving exhaust gas from a diesel engine, both of which are effective in reducing noise.


The "and/or" suggests that the first part is for internal combustion engines and the turbine wheels are for diesel engines. It is two seperate sentences so that is how I look at it.

A note though...neither addresses the issue of volume so while a turbo is a legal "muffler" it may not "muffle enough" for your area.

 

Regardless of how WE see it is all up to the JUDGE in the town that you get the ticket and how HE interpets the law. It sucks but thats the way it works. I found out the hard way in G-vill in my 76 Chevy 3/4 4spd 350 with duel exhaust I got a ticket becouse the cop said that it was to loud (using his ear not a meter) and the judge said even though I had a muffler I had to change it or pay the $160 fine ( p.s. they don't give warnings) Most guys around there run no muffler on there gas rigs and have no probs and I get busted for having the quietest truck in town. JyRo They can always change the law to not let older trucks be grandfathered in and can make them meet newer laws (Not 08 emissions but more strickt than what we have to do now) Look at the C.A.R.B. in Cal even older trucks have to meet tight emissions and other things and it keeps geting worse.

 

until a month ago, it was just clamped in there. Just welded it in. I passed at the 2nd station. Flanges might be difficult because of leaks. I have a reversible muffler I could stick in there, but it just doesnt sound the same as a straight section of 4" , even if it is barely baffled when backwards. Great idea though, will work for someone.

 

I just got told by a state trooper at a gas station that a turbo is not considered a legal muffler in Texas (although the penal code says it is) and that even if I do get off of a no muffler ticket then I will get a noise violation ticket (of which they need a decibel meter to measure to make sure it's over the legal limit and not by their ears). He said that they are cracking down on diesel's with no mufflers. Now of course he came up to me as I was walking out of a gas station and had left my truck idling. I think he's full of it.

 

see above where I discussed age