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Old 08-18-2005, 03:28 PM
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navastar inline 6

ok i drive a 97 international 24' box for work it hasd the navastar inline 6 and uses the bosh IP like the secondgen P pump and need to know how to turn it up this thing is gutless an flat ground it can do 80 or better but even the smalest incline just kills this thing it has the spicer 5 speed handshaker and runs ok but just so low on power it cant get out of its own way any help would be great and this thing is so under fuled thar i cant even make it smok by bogin it down and i am tired of doing 35 mph up monument hill on I-25 north of colorado springs any how i have never turned up a pump befor so talk slowley lol and as long as i dont blow it up the boss said i can do it so no worryes there i just need some more not going to race it lol just need it to pull the loads better than it is i figurer if i can do the speed limit i can cut a hour out of my day driving between colorado springs and ft collins everyday thanks all talk at you all soon
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turn up the pump just as you would on a 2nd gen cummins
Old 08-18-2005, 06:13 PM
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Does it have the 466 engine? what year/ model of truck?

I work for the international dealer up here , so i can ask our pump guy how to get you some extra ponies.
Old 08-18-2005, 06:25 PM
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it is a 97 and 466 sounds rite i will get some pics of it tomorow dont know off the top of my head what model but will get it for you and get a pic of the pump it is not the same as the p pump but darn close
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how do you turn up the pump on a 2nd gen
Old 08-18-2005, 09:49 PM
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Ya, that caught my eye. Heh. How do you turn up the VP44 on a 2nd gen.? sans box....
Old 08-18-2005, 11:44 PM
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On a VP equipped truck no box equals no go. The VP44 is an electrically controlled fuel injection pump. While it has mechanical parts they are all under electronic control. No box no go!!!
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yea a 97 would still be the mechanically injected engine
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P-pump just yank the plate and grind away slide the plate and the afc forward and crank the star wheel forward. Make your plate look like this!
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ok it is a 4700 dt466 it is a 466 navastar


and this is the IP



as i said it is like the P pump but not the same
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looks a lot the same. This should get you there. Grind the plate down, and have fun

http://www.tstproducts.com/pdffiles/INSRUCT98.pdf

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I will print the info tomorrow and take it to dale on monday , and see what he says.
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You can take the afc on the top and back off and slide the stock plate all the way forward. Is this a auto or stick truck. You have to be careful on the auto trucks as they ussually don't have much room for hp built into the allisons. It is intercooled which will help but the turbos on that motor aren't as effecient at high boost as the holset from what I've heard. I think they offer that motor up to 300 hp from the factory.
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Correction for you: that model DT466 with that pump was only used between 1993 and 1995, the picture you have says it's a '95 and those are the cream-of-the-crop DT's!(like a '96-98 Dodge 12 valve 5 speed)
There's tons of things you can do to a 466. I'll agree with the plate grinding, it does wonders to the lower rpm's! Mine is a '94 and looks identical to yours. I did all the mods myself: ground fuel plate, AFC adjustment, advanced timing, and tighter gov springs. Guessing it at around 280-290hp. By the way, a Cummins 6BT gov spring kit will work in the DT series engines, just get the 3k kit & not the 4k . Scheids and Hypermax are the gurus of these engines, much like Piers is for the Cummins B crowd. You may run into the fact that sliding the fuel plate will only gain 30hp because of your injectors. The 210hp & up(if I remember right) used the same injectors but a different pump calibration. You got the weakest one(175hp). Time for some extrude honed injectors, twin turbos, and some new rear tires!
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Take a look at the Bosch tag on the side of the pump. It should say "PES6P.....". If it does, then it is the same as a P7100 (I think). We have a Freightliner FL80 with the Cummins 8.3 that has a P7100 (PES6P).


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