General Diesel Discussion Talk about general diesel engines (theory, etc.) If it's about diesel, and it doesn't fit anywhere else, then put it right in here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

ISB Cummins in a boat

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 09:30 PM
  #1  
Big Smoky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 955
Likes: 0
From: Elgin, TX
ISB Cummins in a boat

I was wondering if anyone had ever toyed with the idea of taking an old 12v out of a dodge and put it in a boat. Now I know it wouldn't be that practical or fast because its heavy, but I think it would be awesome! It would do a heck of a job pulling a skier up. I've seen the marine engines that Cummins makes but it would be easier for me to hop up an engine that I've worked on before. I just thought it would be cool.

Eric
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 10:46 PM
  #2  
Raspy's Avatar
DTR's 'Wrench thrower...' And he aims for the gusto...
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,668
Likes: 3
From: Smith Valley, NV (sometimes Redwood City, CA)
It would be way cool. My buddy has a crashed '89 and I've been watching for the proper boat to come around to slip the Cummins into. I also have a VERY low miles Mercedes diesel to do it with, but it's only a 240.

Deep V hull, keel cooled, dry stack, shaft drive. Maybe a lobster boat style. Trailerable for the Sea of Cortez. One of these days.

Wetspirit
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 10:53 PM
  #3  
Sidewinder's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 596
Likes: 0
I think the 5.9 WAS used in marine applications. I hear people using "marine headgaskets" all the time.
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 11:41 PM
  #4  
Raspy's Avatar
DTR's 'Wrench thrower...' And he aims for the gusto...
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,668
Likes: 3
From: Smith Valley, NV (sometimes Redwood City, CA)
I don't know why you'd need a "marine" head gasket unless you were running salt water through the block. Ouch. A fresh water setup would be a LOT better. A keel cooler does away with the salt water pump and the heat exchanger. But requires a dry stack.

Is the marine head gasket for raw water cooling?

Wetspirit
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:55 AM
  #5  
Big Smoky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 955
Likes: 0
From: Elgin, TX
I think the ideal boat to put the Cummins in, just for the "cool" factor, is an older Baja or something. If they can put twin 454's in those things, then I think it could hold the weight of one of these engines. As for your question, wetspirit, I'm not sure if the marine gasket is for raw water cooling.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 01:01 AM
  #6  
bigredBCS's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,529
Likes: 0
From: living in hotels like an underpaid rockstar!
we got boarded by coast guards this summer when fishing in florida and they had a boat with what sounded like a cummins in it, when they took off it rolled some black smoke out of a hole in the side....as bummed as i was for not being able to fish for an hour because they were being jerks, it mad my day sooo much better when it rolled the coal






it would be awesome to put one on one of those fan boats
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 01:06 AM
  #7  
BigBlue's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
IIRC, the marine headgasket can withstand abuse better and is slightly thicker than a normal headgasket.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:41 AM
  #8  
A-Poc's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 381
Likes: 0
From: New Brunswick, Canada
I'm in college as of right now and there is a marine 5.9 in the shop painted white. Has all the goodies on it.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:17 AM
  #9  
VADSLRAM's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 665
Likes: 7
From: VA Beach
They go in boats all the time. If you use a heat exchanger instead of using raw water (the stuff outside the hull) then you could pretty much just put it right in. I'm not sure how good it would be for skiing. Usually you would use the torque to throw a big prop fairly slowly like tugs and commercial fishing boats.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:20 AM
  #10  
VADSLRAM's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 665
Likes: 7
From: VA Beach
Originally Posted by bigredBCS
we got boarded by coast guards this summer when fishing in florida and they had a boat with what sounded like a cummins in it, when they took off it rolled some black smoke out of a hole in the side....as bummed as i was for not being able to fish for an hour because they were being jerks, it mad my day sooo much better when it rolled the coal






it would be awesome to put one on one of those fan boats
I'm in the CG. Depending what boat did your boarding it had a Volvo, a MAN, a Detroit, a Cat or a Fairbanks Morse. We have very few that have their primary movers as Cummins. We do use them alot for generators though.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:24 AM
  #11  
G1625S's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,767
Likes: 5
From: port crane, NY
when I was up in Maine a couple months ago to purchase a couple stationary engines, the guy I bought them from asked me how many million miles the little 'B' in my truck had He said every lobster boat worth its weight is running a 5.9. He said they just go and go and go...yeah, I know
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:45 AM
  #12  
jrs_dodge_diesel's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 4,569
Likes: 40
From: League City, TX
Originally Posted by bigredBCS
we got boarded by coast guards this summer when fishing in florida and they had a boat with what sounded like a cummins in it, when they took off it rolled some black smoke out of a hole in the side....as bummed as i was for not being able to fish for an hour because they were being jerks, it mad my day sooo much better when it rolled the coal






it would be awesome to put one on one of those fan boats

Do you remember how big the boat was roughly? Was it painted white or was it aluminum?

Reason I ask is that some of the smaller vessels we have are equipped with either the ISC or the 6CT.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:47 PM
  #13  
Big Smoky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 955
Likes: 0
From: Elgin, TX
Originally Posted by VADSLRAM
They go in boats all the time. If you use a heat exchanger instead of using raw water (the stuff outside the hull) then you could pretty much just put it right in. I'm not sure how good it would be for skiing. Usually you would use the torque to throw a big prop fairly slowly like tugs and commercial fishing boats.
Is the heat exchanger the only thing different from the marine version of the 5.9, other than it being white in color?
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:55 PM
  #14  
dodgezilla04's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 0
Likes: 1
From: kingston,wa
6BTA5.9M1orM2meant marine 1 or 2 for keel cooler or jacket water heat exchanger mounted on the front of the engine.

lots of cummins marine engines in navy and coastie boats, and some pleasure boats as well. as far as weight, it is alot lighter that the boats with 3208 cats in them. so not too much a factor.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 01:06 PM
  #15  
surfram's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
From: Delaware
They are very common in fishing boats on the Chesapeake Bay and DE/MD coast. I could not think of a much better motor for a medium-sized fishing boat.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:56 PM.