yarddog

As long as there's no traction.

I like my Dodge. That is all. Carry on.

SuperDave4x4

LOL no kidden....

blackdiesel

lol i never said it was bent because it was worn.

OPIE

Since I run with both crowds I see things much differently than most you guys have on this thread.

If you compare apples to apples both the common rails are very similar. True, automatic transmission wise they are different. Even so if you put a strong chip in a Duramax just like the Dodge the tranny won't hold it. Dodge has been doing mods longer and has more vendors. I do think the Chev will have the upper hand this year as they are now able to record, compare, and write changes directly to the ecm with a laptop.
Each truck has things I do and do not like.

In reality the two are becoming just like it is in the gasser world. Who ever is willing to spend the most money will be the fastest.

natlchamp2k4

here is an unbiased test conducted by pickuptruck.com

check it out

1/4 mile drag
1/4 mile towing 12k
7% towing 12k
15% towing 12k

results here

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/stor...out/page1.html

inline6359

2002 Chevrolet 3500 Heavy Duty
Extended Cab 4x4 dual rear wheel, Duramax diesel 6600 6.6-liter, 6-speed manual transmission, 3.73 rear axle ratio and a curb weight of 6970 pounds

2003 Chevrolet 2500 Heavy Duty
Extended Cab 4x4 single rear wheel, Duramax diesel 6600 6.6-liter, Allison 5-speed automatic, 3.73 axle ratio, and a curb weight of 6950 pounds

"2003 Dodge Ram 3500 Heavy Duty
Quad Cab 4x4 dual rear wheel, Cummins High Output 5.9-liter diesel, 6-speed manual transmission, 4.10 axle ratio and a curb weight of 7927 pounds

2003 Ford F-250 Super Duty
Crew Cab 4x4, single rear wheel, Power Stroke Diesel 6.0-liter, 6-speed manual transmission, 3.73 rear axle ratio and a curb weight of 7188 pounds

2003 Ford F-350 Super Duty
Crew Cab 4x4, single rear wheel, Power Stroke Diesel 6.0-liter, TorquShift 5-speed automatic, 3.73 rear axle ratio and a curb weight of 7250 pounds

In a perfect world, all of the vehicles would be exactly the same size and weight, and have the same tire size, cab configuration, and rear axle ratio. What we got is pretty much what you would find if you went shopping for the right truck."

Unbiased deffinitly, fair hell no. There is a difference from 4.10 and 3.73. How can you call a test that has 2 chevys, 2 fords eually equipped and 1 dodge with different rear ends a fair test. To actaully prove something at least as far as the dodge is concerned they needed 373 because there is a difference.

mtomac

[QUOTE=mooseman]here's video of the wimpy IFS in action truckpulling:

http://video.dieselplace.com/Player....4F127D05A5&p=0
http://video.dieselplace.com/Player....487AEC3E67&p=0

I still have all of my original IFS front end parts on my truck after 108K miles. I sleeved up the tierods and lower the torsen bars for pulling. The wimpy front end has held up to 199 boosted launches at the dragstip and 104 hooks truckpulling and still counting

natlchamp2k4

agreed on the fairness

but it was interesting to read through

different trucks performed well in different area's( they should have tested a 373 single rear wheel dodge also

now if they did that test for three years straight im afraid we would be the only ones still standing!!!!

smokin05

look i live in dallas and let me tell you when some guy wants to race and i think his rig might be faster here is what you do ....just slowly pull ahead of him very slowly like you dont even know he is there get in front of him roll down the windo just a little and grab a can of WD-40 w/ a good straw and spray like a crazy man just slightly upwards....it all lands on his windsheild! when he his his wipers FLOOR IT! you win! ha ha but being smarter...

p.s. texans sometimes carry guns!

fredw

ya that IFS di not look to bad, and another sled pull victory

the ride of the IFS is also second to none, and that we all know

DustyRock

http://video.dieselplace.com/Player....CA52382C57&p=0


This is also a good video of a 3500 Dmax pulling. Got to give Kudos when they are due. A good running well engineered reliable machine should be applauded whether or not it has had lots of $ tossed at it to get it to perform.

fredw

great video, once again the IFS prevails, do you drop your bars for pulling or any other tricks you do, your truck looks very solid when pulling, great runs

srt4brown

I have a buddy that has a DC and we were towing 14' Gooseneck Trailers down in Florida with around 15,000 pounds of debri each load. Doing around 15 loads per day, and his DC couldnt hang. The thing started smoking and sputtering and then one Holy day poof. Thankfully he still had a warrenty on the engine. GM had a recall on the injectors that caused his engine to crap the bed. The whole Engine had to be replaced.
**Then we were pulling some heavy equipment up some 4-6% grades and with my O/D locked out I would pull away up all of the hills, and believe me you can hear his DC with that 5" exhaust!!!
I know many people that would love for GM and FORD to put the Cummings in there trucks.

farmer dave

srt4brown,
How can you friend have a DC and GM replaced his engine . Maybe I am not reading it right, but this is what I got from this post.

BigBlue

DC in this case stands for duracrap. I had to read over it a couple of times to figure it out.