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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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What will happen to the Duramax ? VERY interesting .
nothing; because GM owns all the rights to the design and production of it.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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It'll probably be along the lines of a Duramax . http://news.windingroad.com/category/auto-news/isuzu/ . Whoa , I just read that first part of that article . GM dissolving the diesel partnership with Isuzu ? What will happen to the Duramax ? VERY interesting . As for the Cat rumor , that may have come from the press release announcing D/C coming out with the class 4/5 Sterling Bullet which is basically a Dodge 4500/5500 but the release says the Bullett will use engines used in the rest of the Sterling line . Sterling is powered mainly by Cat or Mercedes . But here's the latest - Cummins powered http://www.sterlingtrucks.com/Sterli...fications.html .
I like those wheels on those Sterlings....I wish the Dodge 45/5500's would use those.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Well, you aren't going to get ANYTHING Cat Yellow for $3. Trust me, I know. I know that one time back in the 90's GM and Cat had some discussions, but it all came to an abrupt halt when Cat stated that they wanted the entire truck powertrain warranted for 200,000 miles. Not just the engine, the entire powertrain. GM bowed out at that point.
Cat also can't get engines built fast enough right now, the wait time on some engines is 16-18 months!!!. They are building them as fast as possible, adding assembly lines, extra man-power, but with the OTR, machine, industrial diesel, and natural gas market booming like it has been for the past several years, they won't get caught up anytime soon. I would love to see a Cat in a pickup,of course, first thing I would be looking for is a flashfile!!! hahaha.. I love my Cats, cut me and I do bleed yellow.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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good thing GM didnt go with Cat....otherwise we'd still be stuck with stupid technologies such as ACERT and HEUI injection
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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I see a missed opportunity then
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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I see a missed opportunity then

i agree

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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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[QUOTE=EClancy;1394915]i'm pretty sure that Cat wants no part of the pickup truck market. They also do not build a small engine that will pass passenger vehicle emmissions.

Caterpillar has been trying to penetrate the small truck market for more than 10 years. They supplied a specially developed engine into the concept Power Wagon and have been shopping it around for years. Don't kid yourself into thinking that they wouldn't like a piece of that action. Cummins is a much bigger and stronger business because they hooked up with Dodge 20 years ago, and any engine supplier can easily see what a win-win situation that has been.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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I agree,

The stable business from dodge boosted Cummins when they were in a rough stretch. Look at them now, they are having more sales and paying off their old debts early. Unless things have changed, or i got some wrong info, Caterpillar has had a tough time reaching emissions.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Imagine walking into the local dodge dealer looking for a diesel. The salesman comes over and gives you your free donut and coffee and askes whata looking for, you tell him diesel 3500, he replies you want a cat or a cummins.
In a perfect world that would be impressive.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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In my perfect world, no auto manufacturer would make any engines. Instead, they'd make the cars and you could choose from several engines and drive trains for just about anything. Engines would come from engine manufacturers and transmissions and axles from gear companies. If you wanted a Ford with a Cummins in front of an Allison, no problem. Dodge with an Isuzu diesel (Duramax), sure (weirdo ).
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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I'm pretty sure that GM bought out the rights to Duramax ltd. meaning that they now have full control over the Duramax engine line. I think GM also bought out the Isuzu medium duty truck line. Either way, nothing will happen to the Duramax and who knows where a CAT engine will end up. Dodge will never leave Cummins, it is the only reason they sell 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. I highly doubt Ford will leave the powerstroke. Even with the issues of the 6.0 they still sell more diesels than GM and Dodge combined. GM wont leave Duramax as they now own the company. I doubt you will see a CAT in a Toyota because Toyota makes it's own diesels in Japan, can't remember what they call them at the moment... Finally I seriously doubt CAT would be dumb enough to let Honda have its engines if Honda should decide to build a heavy duty pickup ... Honda Ridgeline, enough said.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TXTad
In my perfect world, no auto manufacturer would make any engines. Instead, they'd make the cars and you could choose from several engines and drive trains for just about anything. Engines would come from engine manufacturers and transmissions and axles from gear companies. If you wanted a Ford with a Cummins in front of an Allison, no problem. Dodge with an Isuzu diesel (Duramax), sure (weirdo ).
Perfect for you but not so good in the end. Look at the boating industry, many folks bashing brands of boats because of powertrain issues, and in the small craft industry there are really only two powertrain manuf. of I/O stuff and they are both good.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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I have a friend who works for GM in Canada, she says the Duramax's are giving them a lot of problems.
Yea but that's Canada so by the time the "problems" make it to the USA due to the exchange rate they're not that bad. (sorry I can't pass up a good Canadian joke)

Originally Posted by duratothemax
good thing GM didnt go with Cat....otherwise we'd still be stuck with stupid technologies such as ACERT and HEUI injection
Even Cat doesn't use HEUI anymore on the on-road engines. I'll personally take ACERT over EGR any day, the inside of the exhaust pipe should be black not the intake pipes.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Ford owns CAT..
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