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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Colorado Springs- Shell station went from $1.85 last week to $2.09 this week.
Shell seems to be the highest around by $.05 or so.
Doesn't get any of MY business!

I see a lot of trucking companies, including my trash hauler, just tack on an extra "fuel surcharge" to their bill

Who do I send MY fuel surcharge too???
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Papaperk,

Could not help but jump in regarding your thoughts on price controls. Historically price controls have never worked. Do I like having to pay $2.05 per gallon? NO WAY. If the government steps in to control oil prices, where does it end. Do we then control the prices of plumbers? (Have you had a plumber out to your home lately?) I don't know what you do for a living, but I'm sure someone would say that you, or your company charges too much. Would it then be OK to control your salary???
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Diesel has jumped up 10 cents a gallon to $1.95 here.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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Biodiesel is 3.00 a gallon near me. At the rate we are going, when the price gets a little closer, I'm just gonna go bio. When I said something baout the price to the supplier, he said that if he had more demand the price would come down on it.
Maybe I can empty out the fyer dumpster behind the local McDonalds.

Find Biodiesel in YOUR area:
http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodi...s/default.shtm

Info about lubricity, and other stuff:
http://www.biodieselnow.com/

Chris
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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at albertsons here north of the colony near little elm, tx it is $1.69 I hope it stays that way for a while, they don't advertise they have diesel
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by PapaPerk
Hey yall'

The oil tycoons make their money off the common man. So who in government stands up for the common man?
PapaPerk,
Don't think so. These large companies make their money on all sorts of commodities. Some of the biggest money makers is on the chemical side. The only thing the common man see is the plastics and other chemical based finished goods that are on the shelf. Also, these companies are global, and profits genererated in the US is a small precentage of the overall profits.
Well, the government doesn't stand up for the common man. Because one government agency is creating this mess. The EPA.
The EPA and the tree huggers running the place. Small refineries are being shutdown because they are not cost effective to upgrade to meet EPA pollution requirements. And in 2006 do you think ULSD will be cheaper than regular old #2 diesel? And another one that gets my goat is all the BS involve in getting drilling permits. It takes lots of money to bore a hole in the ground these days.

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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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1. Crude oil is a commodity that has been traded on the New York Merchantile Exchange for over 20 years. As is the case with any other commodity, the market determines price based on anticipated supply, demand and any short-term anomalies (i.e., hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico, political instability in the Middle East or Venezuela, etc.) in either supply or demand. According to the Houston Chronicle, 23% of the Gulf of Mexico's production is still shut in because of the hurricanes - there was a good bit of damage to drilling and production platforms out there.

2. Crude oil closed yesterday at almost $50/bbl. Since 1 bbl = 42 gallons, the refineries are looking at feedstock prices of $1.19/gallon at the fence. This is before the crude oil is refined into gasoline, diesel fuel, motor oil, etc. and before distribution costs, profits, federal and state taxes and so forth are added on.

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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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This morning on Good Morning America, they reports that fuel prices may increase another 20-25 cents a gallon by mid October, then decline slightly. Home heating oil is predicted to jump 60 cents a gallon over last year.
Bad news for fixed incomes and such...

as of last night #2 was $ 1.99 a gallon here, premium unlead was $2.25 and regular was $1.87....I was told that desiel is higher now because therefinerys are making more unleaded, so the supply is down...
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Well, if the price of diesel is getting to you, I met someone who has found a partial solution. Was at the exchange here a Camp Pendleton last month and saw another Cummins' guy. Asked him about his transfer tank in the bed (does it plumb into the fuel tank?). He said no, it's separate. And doesn't have diesel. It's full of grease. Used cooking grease. He had filled up with diesel two weeks prior on the north side of the Grapevine and still had half a tank. The system (more information at www.greasel.com) uses used cooking grease. Said he starts with diesel, and after warm up switches to the grease. And before shutting down switches back to diesel to clean the injectors. Never heard of anything like that. I know diesels will burn just about anything but this one was new to me. Checked out their site but they don't have anything for the 03-04 models. He loved the system. Gets all of his oil for free from resturants in the area. Sounded normal, just smelled like McDonalds french fries.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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It's called biodiesel. Check earlier posts FMI.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by xp8103
It's called biodiesel. Check earlier posts FMI.
Technically, that's a WVO (Waste Vegetable Oil) conversion... Biodiesel is made to be run as the primary fuel.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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From the www.biodieselnow.com site:

Biodiesel is a vegetable oil-based fuel that runs in diesel engines - cars, buses, trucks, construction equipment, boats, generators, and oil home heating units. It's usually made from soy or canola oil, and can also be made from recycled fryer oil (yes, from McDonalds or your local Chinese restaurant). You can blend it with regular diesel or run 100% biodiesel.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by xp8103
It's called biodiesel. Check earlier posts FMI.
Actually no it's not called biodiesel, the system usmc is referring to is a greasel WVO conversion kit. This starts and warms the engine on regular diesel (or biodiesel) and then once it's warm, switches to straight vegetable oil, and then back to diesel to shut off. These systems are DEFINITELY NOT recommended for third gens with HPCR injection. A nightmare waiting to happen.

Biodiesel on the other hand is recommended. I've used it since 2001 with great results. 30,000 miles straight with 100% biiodiesel in my VW TDI with no problems, and I've been using B20 (20% bio) in my Mercedes since 2001. For the last year I've been running 20% blends in my Cummins as well with no issues other than quieter/smoother idle, and less of my dollars going to foreign oil consumption!!
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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I understand now. My mistake! And come to think of it, I have heard of these systems where the fuels are kept separate.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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XP, its a common confusion, don't feel bad. They are kept separately, and often the WVO tank requires heat to bring it to the proper viscosity. Add to that the hassle of collecting and filtering WVO, you've got a royal PITA in my opinion...
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