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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 10:59 PM
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Caterpillar??

Would anyone here trade their Cummins HO for a Cat under the hood of an 03 Ram?? Just curious..
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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Re:Caterpillar??

Maybe, if;
- they could prove equal or better reliability than Cummins
- the fuel consumption was equal or better
- it was quieter than the Cummins
- the engine was detuned considerably, therefore allowing much bombing later
- the price was lower then Cummins
- the warranty was equal or longer
- it did not weigh more than a comparable Cummins
- the price for parts was cheaper and not more expensive which they could be right now.
- the HP and torque were more than the HO
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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NO.
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 07:40 AM
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Uhhh, no.
I don't know what all the hype is with the Cat, other than being very expensive to maintain.

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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmm, let me think, NO!<br><br>Cats suck, period!<br><br>Cummins Forever 8) 8) 8)
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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No way!
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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<br>Sure, I will do it if you give me $50,000 to go with it so I can buy a real engine. ;D ;D ;D
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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So what do you guys have against CAT? What are your person experiences? Just wondering. The 3126E is a larger engine. So if they could fit it in there I might consider one. If Cat gave the specialty trucks warranty that would be nice @ 60 months and 150K I think. peak torque is like 860 ft. lbs torque. -Anthony
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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Someone must have so experience with CAT. Or at least a good reason why they don't like CAT. I am just curious that's all. -Anthony
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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[quote author=yz link=board=20;threadid=17341;start=0#162918 date=1058922415]<br>Someone must have so experience with CAT. Or at least a good reason why they don't like CAT. I am just curious that's all. -Anthony<br>[/quote]<br><br>I'm curious also, I know quite a few car haulers that are running the cat in mid-sized trucks and they love em. Good power, good efficiency, good resale.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Better question is &quot;how many of us in Dodge land would have NEVER bought a Dodge if they had a CAT in the CHEVY and GMC?&quot; (alot of Chevy converts drive Dodge because of the Cummins)<br><br>Or would the Cat in the Dodge have swung so many of us over from CHEVY and the 6.5 Turbo like the Cummins did?<br><br>
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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[quote author=Gary - KJ6Q link=board=20;threadid=17341;start=0#162973 date=1058928403]<br>
<br><br>There was ONE, and ONLY one reason I bought my first Dodge truck - in '91:<br><br>C-U-M-M-I-N-S... <br><br>I held my nose about the outer wrapper - and was pleasantly surprised when THAT turned out to be excellent as well!<br>[/quote]<br><br>No doubt Cummins saved Dodge in a BIG way! I am just saying that if Dodge had gone with the Cat it would have been a similar result as long as Cummins wasn't in another truck.<br><br>I am also saying that the true blue Chevy guys wouldn't have flocked over by the droves either if Chevy had gone with the Cat. True there would have been some brand hopping but not like what we have witnessed.<br><br>Still laughing about the comment about holding your nose about the outer wrapper My Grandfather would by a new Dodge every year and loved them! For as long as I can remember him being alive...
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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I think it would be real intresting to see CAT engine in one of the big three brands. If the engine was in a Chevy I don't think I would buy one but it would be intresting. If they put it in a Ford then I would have to think about it hard. I like the 4x4 reg. cab long beds. But If DC and Cummins split I would buy a Dodge/CAT. I love my Cummins. I just think it would be intresting. That's all. I just hate the really dislike the Powerstoke and Dmax. I just wish that pick ups were like Over the road truck. Like pete or KW. I wish you could get a CAt,Cummins, or anything in are truck if you wanted. So you can pick what engine you want. I think that would be great. It's not that I like Cat any better then I do Cummins. I just think it would be great if they had an engine in a pick up. Just to make things intresting. I think it would be a great product. That's all. -Anthony
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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[quote author=yz link=board=8;threadid=17341;start=0#162918 date=1058922415]<br>Someone must have so experience with CAT. Or at least a good reason why they don't like CAT. I am just curious that's all. -Anthony<br>[/quote]<br><br>From what I remember (and that's over twenty five years ago!) Cats are more expensive to buy and maintain. I remember going to a Mormon dealer and picking up 3 tractors, two with the Cummins NTC 400 and one with the Detroit Diesel 8V92. The dealer had several Mormons with the Cat 3408 and the trucks where more expensive because of the engine.<br><br>MikeyB
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