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Old 06-02-2008, 06:21 PM
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I LOVE MY CUMMINS ON THE ROAD and no choice except CAT for offroad.






Where the kitty's should play!!!!!!!
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Very simple. Diesel engines are like bananas, they're not any good until they turn yellow!!! I like the 5.9 but the N14 I had was a gutless wonder. C15=Good ISX=boat anchor.
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my fav for a big rig is the 3406E

though we have a 430hp c-12 in the 200 kenworth t-800
Old 06-03-2008, 07:28 PM
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I don't have any experience with a cat but its got to be better than my ISC. Its an '08 and it has the new emission stuff, I have to say I hate it..
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ISX for the big trucks, all the way. I've driven enough ACERT Cat's to be fed up with them. Repairs take twice as long, motor uses more fuel, and twice as much to go wrong on a Cat nowadays. Early C15's were nice, but a Cat has always been thirsty, and the newer ones keep right with that.

I guess my company is having good luck with the Volvo's....
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Originally Posted by Philabuster
Why wasn't the Powerstroke included in the poll?























Exactly. Don't tell me you guys are prejudice. Maybe some people like having a truck that leaves them on the side of the road. It's time we all slowed down and stopped to enjoy this country's great scenery from the side of a highway!
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Does anyone think the 14L Cummins has less power than the C15 because of it's smaller displacement?

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I work on Cat off road equipment everyday. I still stand by my statement, "Caterpillar, frustrating mechanics since 1925.". Don't get me wrong they got some nice stuff and some cool technology but dang, some of their designs just make me want to wring the engineer's necks! Although I have found that a C18 in a D9T does sound pretty dang good hehe.

I'll stick to my Cummins powered trucks for now. I'm partial to the big "C" like everyone else on this forum.
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Originally Posted by cincydiesel
Give me a 4 an quarter CAT in the big trucks and a 5.9 CR in the little trucks
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Dont get me wrong I love my 5.9L cummins and I like the other cummins engines like the Big cam 300 and 400 CTD's. But I know of a few cats out there (425HP) that will striaght out dance...

In my opinion if you are heavy hauling say in a class 8 truck I think a Cat is the only way to go...
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Originally Posted by Dieselnick
Does anyone think the 14L Cummins has less power than the C15 because of it's smaller displacement?

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No. The N14 is 14L and until the new Acerts came out the C15's were 14.6L. The Acert C15's are 15.2L which is what they used to call the C16.
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Originally Posted by Jfaulkner
No. The N14 is 14L and until the new Acerts came out the C15's were 14.6L. The Acert C15's are 15.2L which is what they used to call the C16.
3406 series was 14.6, the C15 designation was used when displacement was bumped to 15.2L.
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my c-12 is 15.6L
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Originally Posted by levigarrett76
my c-12 is 15.6L
you better check that again! The C12 is 12 L (732 cu in) and the C13 is 12.5L (763 cu in)

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3406 series was 14.6, the C15 designation was used when displacement was bumped to 15.2L.
3406E came in both 14.6 and 15.8L (the 600hp was 15.8)
The C15 was 14.6L from 1999-2003. And 15.2L was called the C16. When they switched to Acert the 14.6L was dropped. Links provided.
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i love my cummins but we have 6 cats on my boat 4- 3406 gensets and 2 3508 MDE. even though there smaller than what the ship should have they have 800 bhp stock. im trying to get my command to let me turn the 700 lbs of CO2 for fire fighting to 700lbs of NO2 to "fuel economy". i would love to see a 175' ship plane out
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Originally Posted by Jfaulkner
3406E came in both 14.6 and 15.8L (the 600hp was 15.8)
The C15 was 14.6L from 1999-2003. And 15.2L was called the C16. When they switched to Acert the 14.6L was dropped. Links provided.
Thanks for the links. 3406 series includes more than the electronic motors: A, B, and C models, but the smaller ones were indeed the 14.6L. 'King of the Mountain' Cat's, the 600hp 15.8L, was the largest offering of the 3406E series, but as has been referenced in this thread to the '4 and a quarter Cat', that was the 14.6L series. And all mechanical variations of the 3406 were also 14.6L. The point at which they switched to the C-15 designation I thought was when they bumped displacement, but you have corrected that.

The C-16 is 15.8L, and is not the ACERT motor. 15.2L is the C15 ACERT engine, that is directly from the links provided. C-16 was a completely different animal.

C-16 15.8L
Production Dates: 1999-2002


C-15 ACERT


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