TB NJ, I dont think b10 is going to have any cleansing effect in your ford. If you want to clean the gunk, throw a small amount like a quarter or half tank of b50 or so in the ford....drive it a while, then let it sit a day or two...it will dissolve all the sludge/gunk.... once that tank's about done - change the filter and you should be good to go....

For what it's worth, I know several people that have started running b100 in their 80's model mb diesels, with over 200k on the clocks, and none of them have had any clogged fuel filter probs etc... Most of that warning to carry extra filters is just precaution.... I've never heard of anyone having a clogged filter problem from commercially sold biodiesel.

 

ok same place I talked to 2 weeks ago. The lady on the phone really didn't know much and had other things on her mind. She said they sold it only "straight"... ok, you mean b100? no, honey, straight. ok, how much is it? $2.98 a gallon. Ok thanks, bye.

SO needless to say I didn't bother to make the trip over while we were home. And I didn't think they'd get b100 to pump at the temps we were having the week before christmas.

 

so did you make it over there yet to fill up? What blend do they actually sell? and how much was it per gallon?
we're coming back up to Butler this weekend and I was hoping to go fill up.

 

FYI...........from the Grand Junction Colorado newspaper

01.16.04 Biodiesel fuel may be sold in Roaring Fork Valley
By MIKE McKIBBIN The Daily Sentinel
CARBONDALE — Recycled restaurant grease, mixed with diesel fuel, may be available to Roaring Fork Valley motorists this spring, if plans by a recently formed biodiesel cooperative are successful.

The Roaring Fork Biodiesel Co-op wants to take advantage of growing interest in biodiesel fuels, said organizer Soozie Friedmar.

"So many people are coming out of the woodwork and asking about biodiesel, we thought we could help fill a niche," she said.

Biodiesel is made from used or new vegetable oils or animal fats. It contains 20 percent methanol and a small amount of lye. Biodiesel exhaust is often described as smelling like french fries or donuts.

Proponents claim a modern diesel vehicle that uses biodiesel can get better mileage and cleaner emissions than most other vehicles on the market, without a loss of engine power.

Biodiesel is considered an alternative fuel by the Environmental Protection Agency if it contains at least 20 percent biodiesel and 80 percent petroleum diesel. It is used by the Postal Service, the Departments of Energy and Agriculture, countless school districts, transit authorities, national parks, public utility companies and garbage and recycling companies nationwide.

A grant from the Aspen Ski Co.'s environmental foundation will allow the group to purchase a biodiesel processor, Friedmar said. The processor will produce large quantities of the alternative fuel to be sold to co-op members. A $25 annual fee will be charged to members. The per gallon price of the fuel will be "much less" than the pump price for regular diesel and other gasoline, Friedmar said.

An education program to let people know about biodiesel fuels will be included, Friedmar said.

Much of the co-op's strategy is based on successful efforts such as the Boulder Biodiesel Cooperative, which sells the fuel in that city.

Locations in the Carbondale and Aspen areas have been offered to the Roaring Fork group, Friedmar said. No final site has been chosen.

 

What are the road tax implications of bio? Lets say I have bio in my truck and hit the "fuel check" stop in Florida. Is it legal, do I have to claim it for IFTA?

 

I have some questions about the tax issues as well. There are no retailers selling bio blends in my immediate area. So I have to buy b-100 from a wholesaler. All three that I spoke with said that the tax reporting issue was mine to deal with. So, I am trying to figure that out. If you buy a blend from a retailer the taxes are taken care of, just like at any other fueling point. I also understand that there is a proposed bill that will allow tax breaks for those using bio since it isn't dino. But, it hasn't been signed yet. I think it was attached to the big transportation bill that is currently stalled in congress.

The dealer I spoke with in Atlanta said that even though they are a wholesaler when bio is purchased from an attachment they installed to allow direct auto fueling they will collect the applicable taxes.

Lots of questions, not many answers yet. Truck sure is running smoother though.

 

All necessary taxes should and will be taken care of by the business that sells you the b100. You are the end user and do not need to ask any questions further - just like when you buy normal diesel at the station...

 

We ran the B100 in our dragster this summer, and ran faster, spooled quicker and cleaner than Petro. Just make sure that the stuff is up to spec, and not some "bathtub" homebrew. If you read up on it, many say you can make your own. Take used McDonalds fry oil, mix with Drano to get the glycerine out, filter it and go. Not me. We got ours from Blue Sun here in Denver / Ft. Collins.

 

I just picked up 125 gals of b100 yesterday. The truck is running smoothly =]

 

I'm not sure where DC stands on the use of bio, but Ford specifically states "no more than a 5% blend". Why??

 

To cover their butt if it gells up on you or eats seals. DC says the much the same.
I work in Ag research, one of our main projects for the last seven years is bio-diesel formulations and benifits. We have found out the hard way not to use more than B5 in the Montana winter unless you have tank heaters. This is with refinery grade bio.

 

B20 is good down to about 5F or so without additives. Anything under that you need to start using additives or cutting down the blend. I've run b20 down to 0F without problems when I lived up north. The problems with cold and bio are exaggerated. As posted above, the 5% is a CYA figure for the manufacturers.

 

Where can I fin info on how to make my own BIO?

With rising fuel prices, I want to find a way to cut down my expenses, and I think this may be the answer. I already have a 250 gal & a 500gal tank, and many 55 gal drums. Depending on how hard it is, I think I can offset the price of running #2 only.


We have a local fuel distributor come out and fill up the 250 gal tank with off-road diesel for the tractors, and Im sure he could get me some on-road diesel for my mixing purposes.

So, if anyone knows of a website that has info I can buy on making my own, or anyone with insight please fill me in. If I can figure out how to do it, maybe we can make an article to post in our files to make it easier for people to do it.

Thanks,
Phillip

 

Palmetto kid - yes it's easy and you can offset your fuel costs significantly if you have the time to make it. My friend in lauderdale has run the last 3 years 100% on his fuel which he makes for 36 cents/gal overall/total cost. Pretty cool.

The process is a little lengthy to post everything here, but there are SEVERAL forums you can get info on how to make bio and any problem that might occur, and they are free.

Here's a place that sells ready made processors, which are expensive, but they have fabulous recipes/instructions on the site. The processors are wicked, but not necessarily cost-effective unless you share one with a friend and produce a lot of gallons to defer the initial cost. www.biodieselgear.com

here's a site to find it in your area
www.biodiesel.org
www.biodieselnow.com
Biodiesel discussion forum - a little technical for the beginner -
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=447609751

Enjoy!