You can get one at www.avlube.com. They have a 1 micron filter for the drum as it breathes and also hold a lot of dessicant to remove moisture from the air in the drum and the fuel.

 

It's good to see some interest in bio. No I am not an environmentalist-far from it. I just think it is a good product. Anything to reduce our dependence on foriegn oil. I'd rather give my $$ to the local farmer then somebody in the middle east.

Running bio is kind of like owning a diesel. It has some drawbacks, but as long as you are aware of them, then the drawbacks can be eliminated.

Lightman, (or anyone else running bio) ever take a look at the inside of your egr or inside of you intake on the tdi (or other diesel with an egr system) ? I am curious how it looked. Have you done the egr adaptation? And finally, whats your opinion on bio as a viable option for removing soot deposits in the intake and egr system? Thanks, Kevin

 

OK..ran my first tank of B20 and then when it got lil more empty, i upped the dose. I didn’t notice anything different other than it cleaned my shop floor where i spilled it! AND the smell from my exhaust was LOTS more pleasant. Smelled like when you fry up stuff via a frying pan and get the oil lil bit too hot. I like the fact that it doesn’t foam, and its easy on your hands when you get it on them. Plus when siphoning, if you get a bit in your mouth...woops....it doesn’t take 5 mints and 20 mins of brushing your teeth to get the taste out. It has not taste what so ever.....but i wouldn’t suggest trying it!! haha.....but im sold....its the best tasting, smelling, and cleaning fuel i have ever used!

 

Just my 2 cents, but we ran 100% bio-diesel through the diesel dragster and it made a night and day difference compared to #2. It idled better, it revved SO much better, and it spooled up crazy fast. Personally, it'd take a good two to three seconds AFTER the light went green before the turbo's would be up on boost enough to launch with #2, now with the bio-diesel, it's at 40 lbs. of boost by about the second light, and I'm able to finally cut some good lights now. I'm sold on this stuff. I know this probably doesn't help much with your guys's daily drivers, and most of you won't ever run 100% bio in your trucks, but just thought I'd offer my 2 cents. Also, if you're in Colorado you can get bio-diesel through bluesun (www.gobluesun.com) in either Boulder, or in Commerce City, they just put the one in at Commerce City about a month ago I think. Or you can go to our web-site and see what else the bio-diesel did for our car. Take it easy.
Dustin Bentz
www.cumminsracing.com

 

Do you have any numbers regarding EGTs when running B100 versus #2? With the higher cetane numbers, I've wondered if bombed rigs can run a slightly hotter setup.

 

mudinford congrats on your first run of it. Glad you like it. I sure like the smell too.

Kevin - I don't believe those claims that b100 cleans the EGR. On my 02 TDI I had the egr adaptation at 800 miles, b20 for about 25k, and at that point there was a slight layer of gooey buildup in the intake/egr. I elephant hosed the ccv, and then switched to b100. I ran b100 for 25k and the intake gunk hadn't changed any. My conclusion is biodiesel won't clog your intake, but it won't reduce it's gunk either. I eventually replaced the egr valve with a dieselgeek race pipe, cleaned the intake, and problem solved =]

 

This thread has been interesting to say the least.

But I still don't understand the compelling reason to use Bio fuel. If I could buy it straight from a pump then drive the truck thats one thing, but (maybe I'm simplifying it too much) it sounds like you guys have chemistry class experiments going on in the garage just for the privilege of running bio. Do you save money, or get significantly higher performance for doing your own diesel version of homebrew?

I looked at some of those url's, but I'm a veritable bio nugget, so could someone explain it to me "in english" whats so great about bio to make it worth my while to make special trips and store cans of this stuff for a daily driver?

The nearest places I could find are too far away to even consider it.

Thanks,
Chris

 

Lightman, thanks for the info, yes, I had the adaptation done at about 5000 miles. I just checked a few weeks ago and I have what you described.

It's a shame the stories about it "cleaning the intake" are a little stretched. To good to be true I guess.

I think you justed talked me into the elephant hose mod as well (I am currentlu using the bore brush method), then after the warranty, I'll give dieselgeek a call. Thanks, Kevin

 

Well first off biodiesel isn't any cheaper than #2 unless you homebrew. I have friends that have mastered their process, and brew for 36 cents per gallon, and have run for 3 years on nothing but that. Realistically for those of us that dont want to mess with all of that, bio is more expensive, 2-2.50 a gallon generally. Since most only blend a few gallons at a time, the price isn't that bad.. Also the price goes down if you buy in bulk...

Benefits:
- greatly increased lubricity
- higher cetane
- reduced smoke/smell/emissions
- made from vegetable oil - supports american farmers
- every gallon burned is one less we have to buy from the middle east, works to reduce foreign oil dependence
- the engine runs quieter and smoother, and requries no modifications to run blends like b20 etc..


Kevin, I'd advise against an elephant hose where you live, there have been several people that have had them freeze up Check your pms.

 

Thanks guys. As I was reading some of the posts, it reminded me of working up some new loads for the guns. But reloading is a hobby, and I intend to keep fueling up the diesel out of that category.

 

If I had a B20 pump near my house, I would use it exclusively. Right now, there are less than a handful of service stations in MD that carry Biodiesel. I'd have to drive well over 50 miles out of my way. The one time I tried it, I loved the results....slightly better mileage and better throttle response.

 

50 miles isn't bad at all to go pick up a few drums worth...one trip and that will last you quite a while at lower blends!

 

Well, I got home the other day with my first 2 drums. Got a drum lift attachment and a couple of drum dollies from harbor freight. Hooked up the drum lift to my engine hoist and lifted the drums out and right on to the dollies. Took about 5 minutes to get both drums out and I think it was pretty safe. Haven't had a chance to go anywhere yet but the dodge has about a b-20 mixture in it and the ford has about b-5. Will be pulling the camper up into the mountains tomorrow so I should get a good test.

Got it at hollinsworth oil in Springfield Tn. Pretty nice folks to deal with. They have a retail facility in Clarksville TN so anyone heading north on I-24 towards KY should be able to stop in and fill up.

 

Nice work! What was your final cost per gallon including tax and the drum?

 

Here's a pic of one of the Bio pumps in MD that dispenses B20. It is located in Easton, MD off of Rt.50.

Apparently they don't advertise that it is available...I found the picture while surfing the web.