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WMO, cold temps and fuel gelling

Old Oct 6, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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WMO, cold temps and fuel gelling

At what temp should I start worrying about 30% WMO in #2 diesel? Same questions for #1. Any preffered mixes for cold weather and WMO?

The reason I ask is that I'm driving to Montana for Thanksgiving and I plan to run 30 - 50% WMO on the way up and back. Temperatures probably won't be below freezing while I'm on the road, but while I'm up there for a week, there's a good likelyhood of overnight low temps. I'd rather not come out and find my truck won't start because of frozen fuel.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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You are not going to like my answer, but I run up to 30% gasoline in the winter.
I have done it with and without WMO and never had a problem. I will start running it when the temp gets below 20 degrees and I like to stay around 20% gas.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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I have heard of others using gasoline mixed in the WMO during the winter months to prevent gelling.

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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Why not use Kerosene instead of gas? Kerosene is a lot safer to use then gas and it will not cause damage to your engine.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DBLR
Why not use Kerosene instead of gas? Kerosene is a lot safer to use then gas and it will not cause damage to your engine.
Kero works good too, but it costs a lot more.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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I'm a bit farther north & run 50% WMO in the winter 75-90% summer, so unless you spend a lot of time on donner or thereabouts I wouldn't worry about only 30%.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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I never had a problem with smoking. I run 50/50 on the wmo and #2. In the winter I will add 10 gallons of gas to 50 gallons of 50/50 mix. Looking at your mix ratio it should burn fine without a lot of smoke. Are you sure that your injectors are not leaking?
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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I don't know what you're burning your mixture in, but I would not burn 20% gasoline in any diesel I own including a 1965 Case 730 tractor!! You're asking for trouble. Even back in the '80's when VW suggested diluting their fuel with gas in the winter months the max was 10%, and many said that would cause grief with injectors and pumps.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by D2 Cat
I don't know what you're burning your mixture in, but I would not burn 20% gasoline in any diesel I own including a 1965 Case 730 tractor!! You're asking for trouble. Even back in the '80's when VW suggested diluting their fuel with gas in the winter months the max was 10%, and many said that would cause grief with injectors and pumps.
I have been adding gas for 30+ years and never had a problem with it.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gdh11
I know have over 1300 miles on my mix and other than a lot of smoke for a period during the driving I have had no problems. The mix may not have been mixed thoughly enough but it has seriously quieted down the motor and I can feel more power as well. I will keep you all posted but I did add some gas to the mix in the in bed tank, another 10 gallons, and it seemed to clean up the heavy smoke. BADME thanks again for the help.
Your welcome.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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gasoline will pre-ignite and has less lubricating value so it could be dangerous. With all the oil in the mix, who knows. Really with diesel you want the ignition temperature close to spec. for the lubrication value you can add something to help with. If you can test your mixture somehow to verify flash point, youd have a better way to tell if its safe.
pre-ignition can pop gaskets and damage crank bearings
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