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Old 01-02-2007, 03:01 PM
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The vegeterrainian kit is a two tank system for running straight vegetable oil(SVO) or waste vegetable oil(WVO). NOT a biodiesel reactor.

Copper and brass are both metals that should be avoided for a svo/wvo system as they react with the VO.

Also this is a generic kit and will not have everything needed for converting like a lift pump for those with 24 valve Cummins engines.
The price is relative. The ~$1500 may seem inexpensive but what are you getting?

The questions that come to mind are:
what is the flow rate of their filter?
is there a tank heat exchanger
What fuel temperatures are you wanting to have pre IP?
Old 01-03-2007, 12:16 PM
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I guess its time for me to give up trying to make a point [ that does not mean you have to accept it , just understand it , then use your judgment ] one more time , the lack of not taking out the gliserin is problumatic , getting WVO in a usable condition [ this is were I'm not convinced it can be gotten to ] by the better of the 2 tank systems , method [ cost /labor ] is not much different .


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Actually it looks more labor intensive going the bio route. WVO only requires you to filer and fill where as bio is filter, brew, add, then fill. I figured it would take more time and space going this route IMHO...Jake
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Originally Posted by John Faughn
I guess its time for me to give up trying to make a point [ that does not mean you have to accept it , just understand it , then use your judgment ] one more time , the lack of not taking out the gliserin is problumatic , getting WVO in a usable condition [ this is were I'm not convinced it can be gotten to ] by the better of the 2 tank systems , method [ cost /labor ] is not much different .

John,
As stated before in this thread, VO doesn't have gliserin. Gliserin is a by product from making biodiesel.
Do you know of any person first hand that has experienced engine problems from running a 2 tank heated VO system? I'd be very surprised if you do since it is very rair with a proper two tank system.

With a single tank system problems are much more likely and usually start with injector coking and leads to ring land coking.
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Lots of misinformation there , the reason there is a byproduct of gliserin , is because thats what the process is for , to remove the gliserin that is in all vegi oil , its called transesterfication , adding a mixture of lye & methonal , to settle out the gliserin that was there at the begining .
The varyouse methods of using unprocessed vegi oil new use what ever , the more evolved systems are trying to mitagate the glisein , 2 tank-flush , preheat , ect. , affecting less coking , ash , unburned ,
By the time any of these methods get close to burning the gliserin , you
've spent about the same time and money , and are still dealing with the origanal problum , the gliserin ,

http://www.missouri.edu/~pavt0689/leon.html
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http://www.missouri.edu/~pavt0689/index.html
BIO-BASED RESEARCH HUB

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html
Vegetable oil yields, characteristics: Journey to Forever

http://www.localb100.com/
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by John Faughn
Lots of misinformation there , the reason there is a byproduct of gliserin , is because thats what the process is for , to remove the gliserin that is in all vegi oil , its called transesterfication , adding a mixture of lye & methonal , to settle out the gliserin that was there at the begining .
The varyouse methods of using unprocessed vegi oil new use what ever , the more evolved systems are trying to mitagate the glisein , 2 tank-flush , preheat , ect. , affecting less coking , ash , unburned ,
By the time any of these methods get close to burning the gliserin , you
've spent about the same time and money , and are still dealing with the origanal problum , the gliserin ,

http://www.missouri.edu/~pavt0689/leon.html
Leon Schumacher's Home Page

http://www.missouri.edu/~pavt0689/index.html
BIO-BASED RESEARCH HUB

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html
Vegetable oil yields, characteristics: Journey to Forever

http://www.localb100.com/
LocalB100

you are correct, the glycerin is in all vo. it is what makes the vo 'sticky'
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It burns cleaner than diesel so your oil stays cleaner, but I still change mine at the regular interval. So far I have had no problem with coking. It might be because I run power service every tank and seafoam every once in a while. There is a good long thing on TDR where the guy has torn down and at least pulled injectors to see the effects.




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