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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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High Sulfer

Hey there have a quick question. I was driving by the C0-op the other day and knew I would be using my 99 Dodge on the dirt roads for a few weeks so I filled up with the off-road high sulfer for a great $1.96 per gallon. Can anyone tell me if this is bad for my truck? I would think it would be better for the injection pump (more lube). Does anyone know of the negitives for this? Is it bad for my truck? It sure is great on the wallet. I had planned on switching back and forth between the high sulfer and the low sulfer depending on if I need to do paved road driving.

PLease advise.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Well, I don't want to rain on your parade,but, It is illegal and if caught you will pay a hefty fine. Also it takes several tanks of on road fuel to get any trace out of your truck, so you run the guantlet even longer than you think!! Now for the good news if there is any, it will not hurt your truck or wallet at all But again if you play you will have to be able to pay the man when caught!! Goodluck,Rick
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Maybe I do not understand the rules then. So if I use this whole tank in my truck around my farm, which is what I am doing (hauling wood, pulling trailers, ect) it's still illegal?? I also read somewhere that this leads to more build up in the crank case, is that true?
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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you'll be alright working it off road, but as soon as you put it back on the road is where you will get in trouble if your truck gets diped before all traces are out of the tank.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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If you're truck is registered for on-road use, and you are dipped on the road with red dye in your tank, then you're in trouble.


Anyways, to get it out of your tank you have to run it down, then put in a few gallons of regular Diesel and slosh it around for a few fillings.

The red dye sticks with you for a few fill-ups, so it's best to only fill up a few gallons at a time a couple of times in order to dilute the residue enough.

And I don't think the sulfur does anything other than pollute the air and melt statues.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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The law is as long as the vehicle is registered to operate onroad you can't use offroad fuel.
I get around this with the farm trucks by registering them on a month by month basis rather than all year. Montana has a provision that allows dye residues for one month after registering for onroad.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Thank you for filling me in I really didn't know, glad I asked.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Stupid red dye! Need to find another dye which will change the red back to normal. You can't beat $1.96 a gallon with a stick.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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I have read that it's not only a dye, but that there's a chemical trace of some sort. I will say this: If someone wanted to go to the trouble of rigging up an inobvious 2nd tank, and run the truck off of that, one could also put a nice load of 100% legal on-road diesel in the normal tank. I don't know if that's practical or worth it, but there's a fair amount of room under these trucks...
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by v8440
I have read that it's not only a dye, but that there's a chemical trace of some sort. I will say this: If someone wanted to go to the trouble of rigging up an inobvious 2nd tank, and run the truck off of that, one could also put a nice load of 100% legal on-road diesel in the normal tank. I don't know if that's practical or worth it, but there's a fair amount of room under these trucks...

A lot of times they get the fuel out of the fuel filter.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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You mean they actually raise you hood and mess with your truck? I'm not sure I'd allow that. I've heard of them swabbing the filler neck of the tank, and I've heard of them dipping the tank itself, but I've never heard of them getting invasive enough to go rooting around under your hood. What if the hood latch is broken?
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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I've also heard they can swab the tailpipe to collect tracer residue.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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here is a way to cheat the system. I run offroad fuel all winter, I always buy about a gallon of kerosine and pump it in, and I keep the receit in the truck with me. If I ever get sticked, I pull out the kerosine receit and say its only red because of the kerosine. I never had any problems running it.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wheelo90
here is a way to cheat the system. I run offroad fuel all winter, I always buy about a gallon of kerosine and pump it in, and I keep the receit in the truck with me. If I ever get sticked, I pull out the kerosine receit and say its only red because of the kerosine. I never had any problems running it.
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And you just admitted it in a public forum.

That won't work, might justify the red color, but won't explain the chemical tracer once they get the results from the lab.


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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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In my small little area, there has never been one person to get sticked and none of my local cops are bright enough to really figure out how to stick for red fuel. Nobody in my county really even care honetsy about your fuel. But if I get caught, thats the price I have to pay.
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