Tiara3100

http://www.ne-ethanol.org/facts/ediesel.htm

Marty86

I don't really think ethanol is the answer. *shakes head* You are just making diesel more expensive, when it has ALWAYS been cheaper to make.

DBLR

Guess I don't under stand why they want to use it as I've always been taught over the past 20 years not to use Alcohol in diesel unless you need to de-gel your fuel.

gman07

I think ethanol is great... for gassers. Why not just make soy biodiesel instead of blending ethanol into diesel?

Spooler

Switch Grass for biodiesel would be great. Ethanol made from corn is crazy. Feed bills are already getting out of hand due to this demand on corn. I say no.......

iker42

didnt they say the emmissions put off from ethanol is worse then carbon ?

DSjockey

Not for me thanks

6speedcowboy

Thats what I've heard. I heard that it increases ground level ozone among other things which cause smog.

kawi600

This ethanol thing is just a poorly thought out govt subsidy and its goofing up the prices of corn and raising gas prices.
If theyd do this the right way and come up with a good process to make ethanol without using corn and keep it in gasoline we'd be all set.
The best looking diesel replacement Ive seen so far is biodiesel from algae. They grow the gunk in sewage water and skim the algae for pressing the oil out like plant seeds. The pressed dried algae can be used for feed stock too I think. now THAT has potential. Not often you get to kill two birds with one stone like that.
Supposedly biodiesel generates more NOx and smog gasses. One report even claims its particulate exhaust is more carcinogenic than #2. Lots more problems to solve

ajg617

You got that right. It's also raising the price of cereal, milk, ice cream, beef, dog food, horse food, you name it. But on the flip side, if they ever get to 100% ethanol and it's sold in bourbon flavor, I might just ditch the Cummins and kill two birds with one stone every time I fill-er-up.

Murphy2000

Ah,, my farmer freind...

I wouldnt be to concerned..

In the next few years, corn and high-oil yeild crops are going to skyrocket.. Plant and sell and you should make cash too..

Then, its going to fall again.. Why? Because within 10 years or so, our CO2 emitting power plants will be making algea biodiesel with their emmissions.

Once that happens, half or more, of our diesel fuel will come from those power plants.

The real question is,,, Where is the freeze point data for the algea biodiesel?

John Faughn

I was hoping that this was about using ethanol instead of methanol to process biodiesel , I found a commercial processor using ethanol & bought 50 gals of there bio , I've been running commercial bio for over 2 yrs , between 20 - 35 % .
Trying to check out some of the pos. / negs. of methanols vs ethanol processing

CNeubauer

The reason that ethanol has been made from corn for the past 20 years or so is that in that time frame there was a "surplus" of corn causing it to be cheap and plentiful so that's what they used. As gas prices skyrocketed the past couple of years ethanol has been pushed mainstream because along with soydiesel it's really the only alternative fuel we have that works and is ready to be used in large scale quanities. As a corn farmer I certainly don't think ethanol made from corn is the answer to our energy problem but it's what we have available NOW and we can't afford to wait another 20 years until something better comes along. Also the rise in corn prices has very little to do with the rise in food prices because other than milk and meat there really isn't all that much corn in most products. The rise in processing and transporting food products is where the real price increase has come from and the new minimum wage laws aren't going to help anything either.

searcher

I can attest after working for the oil companies for 20 years that they will pay any price for whatever they need. If corn goes to 50 bucks a bushel they will buy it. Put that together with the fact that we can't produce enough corn to offset the need for crude and "Houston we have a problem". The economic impact of this fiasco hasn't even started. Corn is used in almost everything on the grocery shelf. Also, land used to grow cotton and other crops is now being switched to corn, hence the cost of clothing goes up.

induchman

My fuel supplier already has it www.cenex.com