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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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turbo 350 behind cummins, PLEASE HELP!!

we are doing a conversion on a 75 chevy, got it all hooked up and maybe driveable tomarrow, but how does the kickdown and vacuum systems work on the turbo 350? my understanding is that the kickdown is only used for full throttle downshifts, is this correct? and the vacuum... does it need straight vacuum to shift, or or will it shift way to soon with vacuum all the time? i can make a bracket and extention to get the kickdown to work, but what do i need to do with the vacuum, anyone done one of these yet?
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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never putted a 350 behind a diesel, but when I dropped a 350 in my 78 van with a marine 350 engine, I didn' had a vacuum connect on the marine carb. It would drive but only shift at high RPM.

Hope that helps
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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ok, i think i got it after about 4 hours of searching... looks like the kickdown does only control the full throttle downshift, there is a vacuum regulator valve on early 80's chevy 6.2 diesels, (AC Delco part number 14057219) that controls vacuum to the trans via throttle position (mechanical linkage) to control part throttle shifts, and there is a trans govenor calibration kit offered by B&M to adjust wideopen upshifts... UGG looks like just more work and $$$, but oh well, the best part is all this stuff will also work for the turbo 400, the 350 we have is very strong, so we are gona run it till it dies, we have a good 400 sitting on the shop floor to start building on soon...
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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okay.... wrong again, the chevy vacuum regulator would work but would be a real PITA to hook up, however i did find a conversion kit on ebay to turn the vacuum modulator to cable operated for $120 and still need a cable, so once again just more $$$$$
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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If i am not mistaken, the 6.2's used a TH400, which was electronic kickdown with a switch on the gas pedal.

The cable on a TH350 as you said, is for "passing gear" (just kicks it down to the previous gear in proportion to vehicle speed).

The vac modulator controls "when" it will shift in proportion to engine vacuum.

They make adjustable modulators which will raise up shift points by limiting vacuum, and they also make governor kits, but either way, you'll need vacuum or it wont shift at all in most cases.

My best suggestion is to just tap it right into the T fitting by the brake booster, which will give it a steady vac pull, and use the adjustable modulator to fine tune it.

I'm not really sure how a TH350 is going to hold up to 600ft/lbs of torque when it shifts, so be prepared to pick up parts with a shovel after the first test drive lol
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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Many of the frito-lay step-van trucks with the 4bt cummins in them used the chevy auto. Maybe there is something to be learned from researching this????
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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If i am not mistaken, the 6.2's used a TH400, which was electronic kickdown with a switch on the gas pedal.

The cable on a TH350 as you said, is for "passing gear" (just kicks it down to the previous gear in proportion to vehicle speed).

The vac modulator controls "when" it will shift in proportion to engine vacuum.

They make adjustable modulators which will raise up shift points by limiting vacuum, and they also make governor kits, but either way, you'll need vacuum or it wont shift at all in most cases.

My best suggestion is to just tap it right into the T fitting by the brake booster, which will give it a steady vac pull, and use the adjustable modulator to fine tune it.

I'm not really sure how a TH350 is going to hold up to 600ft/lbs of torque when it shifts, so be prepared to pick up parts with a shovel after the first test drive lol
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thats all correct, but i found a mechanical modulator on ebay that goes inplace of the vac modulator, and is cable operated right off the linkage, if you go with the adjustable vac modulator, it would probably work but it would never modulate, it would just shift exactly the same every time no matter what the throttle position, with the cable setup it will work just as it did with the gas motor,
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