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Ford Excursion cummins swap (HPCR & 48RE)

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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Jesse,

Awesome job!! I am very impressed. You are a very talented individual to pull this off so......relatively ........easily.


Make sure you put some Cummins Badges on that thing....so all the other soccer moms know NOT to mess with the Misses with her Black Coal smoke blowing monster.

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:39 AM
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nice job on the swap. just wondering what your grand total came up to? great job on keeping everybody posted and for the great pictures!
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks guys, it has been a long work in progress even though I only started the tear down exactly one month ago. The idea started back when I decided to sell our last family rig (95 Chevy Suburban w/ 6.5 TD) over a year ago. I've been researching, researching, buying parts, taking notes, and did I mention researching?

At this point I would have to guess on the dollars, I plan to add up all the receipts and find out for sure. I bought the excursion (V10 w/ 100k on it) for around 10k last year. I've probably spent $16,500 on all the parts (including a brand new 305/555 engine, and 48RE trans). I've sold $2000 worth of parts not needed, and still need to sell the V10 and ford 4R100 (maybe $1500). So in the end, the total would be 10+16.5-2-1.5= $23,000. Not too bad, I'd say. I would have to mention that I could never do another one for this price, I ran across so many great deals on things by watching the classifieds and ebay for over a year while accumulating parts.

However, I can't even throw out a figure for the amount of hours I've put into this. Many many nights working till early morning. The little things really take time to figure out. I also took off almost 2 weeks of work during the last month to get this done. My wife already told me that I'm never going to do something like this again

Only time will tell I guess
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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So how long should I break the engine in before I put a smarty on it?

Got my signature updated
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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Wow man looks like it came from the factory that way.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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With it brand new, I would put one on it after your first oil change, but not get too crazy with it. I would step up programs gradually. JMHO
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Yea dont get crazy right off the bat. Drive it around 5-7k miles to let everything get kosher and all the kinks worked out.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Where are the finished pics? You slap some "C" badges on there?
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.9Excursion
However, I can't even throw out a figure for the amount of hours I've put into this. Many many nights working till early morning. The little things really take time to figure out. I also took off almost 2 weeks of work during the last month to get this done. My wife already told me that I'm never going to do something like this again

Only time will tell I guess
i was starting to wonder if you were self-employed or un-employed. looks like alot of time went into the project but will be well worth it in the long run!
i think many people admire your skills
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Went for another drive this evening, first thing I noticed on the laptop was that there was noise on the TPS signal to the trans controller. Tried to do a APPS learn procedure from memory (still need to look it up and see if I did it correct). It seemed to cure the problem. Everything went good. Power wise it seems ok, I don't know what a stock 305 motor should feel like? Everything is a step back from my other truck...

Anyway, I learned the Ford starting circuit can't support the cummins start wire current. Blew a fuse and wouldn't start while in town. Had to pop the hood and touch the right wire to the battery to get it fired up. I guess that circuit will need it's own relay.

1-2, and 2-3 shift is good now. 3-4 is harsh and seems weird. TCC lockup is hard as well. Something about the 3-4 isn't right. Need more drive time to explain it better.

Also, it has some valvetrain noise or injector rattle noise that I don't think should be there.

I'm wondering, does the CP3 get timed? Maybe since this engine wasn't ever installed in a truck, and it isn't a dealer supplied crate engine, maybe the pump hasn't ever been timed? Thinking outloud here.

Still need to get my gauges installed... hopefully tomorrow.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bsj04
i was starting to wonder if you were self-employed or un-employed.
My wife kept telling me I was going to get fired (getting to work late after working all night), taking alot of vacation with short notice, etc. I said hopefully they would fire me and I could start doing cummins conversions full time.

However, I would build a nice shop first, I'm not doing this again in the driveway.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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excellent job! my hat goes off to you!! after that- you deserve a nice, large heated work shop!!!!
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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5.9,

I can't tell from your sig if you are familiar with Dodge tranny shift weirdness. The "normal" 3-4 shift seems strange cause it also includes lockup sometimes and it is kind of a drawn out affair with a little rev in the middle. Is that what you mean? Maybe you're familiar with it already.

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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where are you located. so i can get inline for a conversion. that is awsome truck
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Not familiar with it at all, only ridden in one built auto truck, briefly. It ran like a raped ape until he tried a boosted 4x4 launch on the pavement Had to get towed back to the shop...

Anyways, yes it is a long drawn out shift with what seemed like a rev in it somewhat. This particular time or two, the TCC lockup came after the 3-4 shift.

I think the ATS controller can change this, Joel at ATS is supposed to call me back tomorrow.

Gator45, I'm in the SE corner of Nebraska...

I just edited my last few posts for spelling, I was typing in a hurry, trying to get all 5 kids fed and in bed.
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