busa

Hey guys, in the process of doing my clutch and kind of dropped the tranny off the floor jack and lost a bunch of tranny fluid all over me and the garage floor. So I figure probably should drain the rest and put some new stuff in. I new this crap was expensive but 32-35 bux a liter at chrysler????? I've looked for Castrol Syn-Torque but can't find it. GM dosn't know what the hell I'm talking about even with the part #12346190 I dug up on line. Anybody have any ideas were to find the Castrol stuff or better prices anywhere around Edmonton?
Thanks

Busboy

When I went to change mine and didn't like the price, even the Chrysler parts guy said there was other stuff cheaper. The only one I found local that states it is approved for the NV4500 is the Amsoil one. I took the side plate off and cleaned mine out real good then filled with the amsoil recommended fluid. What a difference in shifting.

Tate

Try a couple different dealers. I changed mine about two years ago. It was about $21/L from dodge, $25/L from GM. Some guys say GM is cheaper. I found Dodge was.

roxxx

Try to find a big dealer ship preferably GMC.... you do have the right part number .that is the Canadian part number I just did a Nv4500 swap last month and got sale price of 7 $ bucks a liter yes 7

busa

Shifting in a good way? Do you remember the name or number of the Amsoil? I phoned three Edmonton Dodge dealers and it was 32-35. I bet the Castrol stuff is cheaper but can't find it.

StealthDiesel

I like Redline oil. It's readily available at Mopac & other local speed shops.
It came down in price a few years ago & is now very reasonably priced.

I run Red line MTL in my NV5600 & 75W-140 in my AAM rear axle. It's a "real" synthetic & cheaper than the name brand pseudo synthetics at Cdn tire & Walmart.

Here is a thread on ABdiesels with the same discussion with recommendations:
It includes links to the correct Redline & Amsoil oil to use in the NV4500.


http://abdiesels.com/forum/index.php...=1&#entry11327

..Joe

1-5-3-6-2-4

I put 50,000 or so HArD miles on my red truck with GL-4 Penzoil synthetic 75w-90.


has to be GL-4 rated oil HAS TO BE GL-4 rated oil. Joe the oils that are recommended for the NV5600 are not for the NV4500.

or you can kiss these babies goodbye

Diesel Dave2

One of these days I should drop my oil as a PM and replace it with new oil..I seen a post a while back where CMP had the oil on sale.....And I forgot..

Dr. Evil

I know this is off topic - but Joe I would absolutely NOT run Redline MTL in an NV-5600. Its far too heavy. Its a 70w80 and the spec for the tranny calls for a 5W30 rated oil. I changed to this fluild and while its a good oil - its not suitable for this transmission.

When I changed mt transmission oil to Redline MTL - I immediately got a grind when going into third gear. I switched to Amsoil MTF and the grind went away immediately.

1-5-3-6-2-4

NV4500 oil .......Dodge dealers (p/n 4874459) and GM dealers (p/n 12346190).........exactly the same Castrol Syntorq LT rebaged for Gm and Chrysler. obviously theres alternates right. make sure you get the right oil alternative. IN a GL-5 oil its the sulfur and phosphorus used in the extreme pressure additive that kills the syncros in the NV4500. thats why it has to be a GL-4 rated synthetic.






12346190 - GM Fully Synthetic Manual Transmission Fluid 12346190
Pace Price Qty
$19.24 USD

Detailed Description
1 Quart Container.
Fully Synthetic manual transmission fluid.
Syntorq GL4 rating

http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...D&ProdID=40902

kennyblatz

amsoil? it would be a cheaper route its what im running i think haha

StealthDiesel

I don't think that Penzoil Synchromesh is correct for the NV4500 but it is correct for the NV5600.


edit: There was another post above mine showing a picture of Penzoil Synchromesh that was deleted!!

StealthDiesel

Actually, Redline MTL is the correct viscosity & characteristics for the NV5600.

This is confusing but gear oil and engine oil doesn't use the same numerical rating system. ie. 10W-30 engine oil rating is not the same as 10W-30 rating for gear oil.
If you go the Redline or Amsoil websites & read the fine print you will see that.

eg.. for Redline 70W-80 MTL: "Satisifies the gear oil viscosity requirements of 70W, 75W, 80W, and motor oil viscosities of SAE 30, 10W30, and 5W30"

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=45&pcid=7 There is more info in the "Typical properties" box on that page.

The Amsoil website has similar info. Amsoil is even more confusing since they use both 5W-30 & 75W-90 to describe their manual transmission fluids.

http://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-transmission-fluid


Redline MTL also replaces ATF in many manual transmissions. My T-5 5 speed in my 5.0L Mustang calls for ATF but Redline MTL is fine for it.


For the NV4500 in discussion, Redline MT-90 75W-90 is the correct heavier oil & is equivalent to engine oil ratings of approximately 10W-40.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7 "Satisifies the gear oil viscosity requirements of 75W, 80W and motor oil viscosities of SAE 40, 10W40, and 15W40"


It is confusing & I think my understanding correct but I'm certainly no oil expert... Joe

Lil Dog

Also try The Gear Centre.. I got my NV4500 from there and they were only $25 a litre for the Dodge Oil.

Busboy

Here is a link to tyhe amsoil product. As you can see it says it's a direct replacement for the Dodge and GM oil. http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx