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Old 01-10-2011, 01:09 PM
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We want YOUR input on bumper designs!

Hello 4th gen folks! It's time for us to start designing/producing 4th gen bumpers. I welcome any and all comments as far as what you would like to see! Here's basically what I would like to know:

-Do more people like the plate steel design or the ranch design?

-If you like plate steel, I'm open to pics or drawings - be creative!

-I've had some input from the pre-runner crowd and they want to see bumpers with better ground clearance that are closer to the front of the truck - not so bulky. Is this something that daily drivers want? Or do we like the bulky designs?

-Grille guard options - we try to offer a wide variety. From single bull bars to full hood cages. What designs would ya'll like to see?

-In general - When it comes to the looks and protection of your truck, what features would you like to see?

-During the next few weeks I'm going to try to come up with a final design, so now's the time to hit me up with designs of your own. So far, all I have is something similar to our deluxe base on the 3rd gen trucks. I'm open to looking at anything.

I want to make sure these products are exactly what customers want, so fire away!

Thanks, Evan
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Old 01-10-2011, 08:49 PM
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I want a winch bumper that offers the most ground clearance and is close to the front of the truck as possible.

My truck is a 2010 2500 with the Cummins. I never heard of your bumpers before I read about them on this forum. While price is an important consideration, durability & appearance is equally important.

I'll be calling you very soon !
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I want a winch bumper that offers the most ground clearance and is close to the front of the truck as possible.
That seems to be a growing trend, or at least a growing request from customers. Basically, the consensus is that it needs to be big enough to house a 12,500 winch, but just barely. That way it can really hug the truck as much as possible. Thanks for the input!
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I could deal with a nicely designed bumper that will accommodate a 12,500 winch. Of course it would have to be strong, with heavy duty mounting brackets to withstand the pull of a 25 - 30,000 lbs pull as many of us utilize pulleys to increase the ability of the winch, as needed, but the bumper & mounting system must be strong enough to handle it.

I have seen a winch separate from a jeep because weak mounting hardware. I look forward to seeing what you have for my truck.
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Old 01-11-2011, 08:01 AM
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I'd like to see an aftermarket bumper of plate steel similar in design to the factory unit. One that completes the wheel wells and hides the air tanks I have tucked in behind the factory one. I don't like seeing the underside of the truck.
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:40 AM
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These are good suggestions - keep them up!

What I'm wondering the most is: Are folks happy with the "industry standard" shape and design? I'm speaking of the similar style used by us, Road Armor, Fab Fours, etc... Is this what you want for the 4th gens, or does anybody have any fresh new ideas?

I'm having trouble coming up with something outside the box! I would really like to see if anybody has some "napkin sketches" of ideas. Post them here or email them to me!
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the bumper & mounting system must be strong enough to handle it.

I have seen a winch separate from a jeep because weak mounting hardware. I look forward to seeing what you have for my truck.
Don't worry about that part. The integral strength of the bumper should go without mention!
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:13 PM
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I am looking very hard into a 4th gen. Would like to put a replacement bumper, I do prefer plate design similar to factory. The factory did an awesome job this year!! I have looked at your site, and really like what I see!! I love the Rear deluxe with the light protection. Would like to see that on a 4th gen. The predator gaurd is what I'd get for a 4th gen. Is it possible to put a Ramsey RE 12,000 winch in your bumper??
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I'm sure the guards will be very similar to the designs we have for the 2nd and 3rd gens. As for the bumper itself, I'm going to try to keep it similar to stock dimensions, as far as hugging the front of the truck. The main change will most likely be increasing the ground clearance on the sides, so the bottom won't be so flat.

As for the RE 12000, I'm not sure. That's a pretty bulky winch. I'll be glad to do custom stuff, but the main line will probably not have enough room. (Trying to keep them as slim as possible)
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Old 01-12-2011, 06:32 AM
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Thanks for the update. Dad has the RE 12000 sitting in the barn, says I can have it. When I get the new one I'll be in touch.
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I too like the plate design over the leader deck design. I think something that is as close to factory as possible, yet still able to hold a good winch would be just about perfect.

Bonus for integrating the factory fog lights for plug and play action.
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I too like the plate design over the leader deck design.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean here, could you explain a little?


Also, good call on the factory fog lights. We weren't really able to make buckets for the 3rd gen lights since they were not really round. However, with the rectangle shape of the 4th gen fogs, I'm sure it won't be a problem.
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Originally Posted by Backwoods Bumpers View Post
I'm not sure exactly what you mean here, could you explain a little?


Also, good call on the factory fog lights. We weren't really able to make buckets for the 3rd gen lights since they were not really round. However, with the rectangle shape of the 4th gen fogs, I'm sure it won't be a problem.

Leader Deck = Diamond plate (Ranch Hand Style Metal)
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10-4 that's what I thought, just wanted to clarify.

As for plate steel designs, do ya'll like more angles for a rounded and chiseled look, or fewer angles for a more simple look?
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You have any pictures or examples? Been interested in getting an aluminum bumper, thats strong enough to mount a winch mount. I also want a front reciever. Steel is heavy. Been thinking about just building one out of tubing.
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