Might Deletes have to be undone?
01-30-2013, 10:57 AM
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I just went thru my transmission throwing codes and going into limp mode. Basically not shifting gears at all. I run the H&S overdrive. I thought that the transmission was done.
I took the truck to the dealer, they found that my line pressure sensor was NFG and replaced it under warranty. No BS about my H&S tuner or my OD programer. They told me that they work on H&S deleted trucks all the time and have no issues with the programmer.
Yes they bugged me to do the recall reflash, but I refused it. I get along fairly decently with my local dealer. I've bought 6-8 vehicles for my business over last 6 years.
I even offered to pay for the repair, but they told me it was done under warranty.
I took the truck to the dealer, they found that my line pressure sensor was NFG and replaced it under warranty. No BS about my H&S tuner or my OD programer. They told me that they work on H&S deleted trucks all the time and have no issues with the programmer.
Yes they bugged me to do the recall reflash, but I refused it. I get along fairly decently with my local dealer. I've bought 6-8 vehicles for my business over last 6 years.
I even offered to pay for the repair, but they told me it was done under warranty.
01-31-2013, 08:19 AM
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(Chrysler) Ram closed my dealer and sent me a postcard stating that the new to me Chrysler car dealer would perform all warranty and service work on my truck. Will I ask the service writer if they had any level 4 techs that could work on a diesel truck? Will the service writer stated that any mechanic that they employed would work on the truck when service is required. Will that told me I did the right thing and will never be going back their ever, even to buy a new truck.
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04-12-2013, 08:34 AM
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Hopefully on topic:
Can the dealer reflash a vehicle to where it cannot be deleted/accept a tuner?
ie: reading a carfax report on a '10 and says reflash emissions equipment.
Can the dealer reflash a vehicle to where it cannot be deleted/accept a tuner?
ie: reading a carfax report on a '10 and says reflash emissions equipment.
04-12-2013, 08:48 AM
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Now on the 6.7L ECM they will detect if a programmer was used and there will be a tell-tale sign on the programmer.
I also believe there have been several updates to the emission software for each model year and the dealers are required to bring the truck up to the latest software by Ram at time of service. So this is why the truck was re-flashed by a dealer.
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04-12-2013, 07:49 PM
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No, they cannot prevent you from deleting. But what could happen is if you were deleted and the dealer flashed the ECM than this could lock out your programmer. Smarty informs all users to return the ECM to stock before having service work done to the truck to prevent the programmer from being locked out. You would need to either have your programmer repaired (un-locked) or buy a new one after a re-flashing was done.
Now on the 6.7L ECM they will detect if a programmer was used and there will be a tell-tale sign on the programmer.
I also believe there have been several updates to the emission software for each model year and the dealers are required to bring the truck up to the latest software by Ram at time of service. So this is why the truck was re-flashed by a dealer.
Jim W.
Now on the 6.7L ECM they will detect if a programmer was used and there will be a tell-tale sign on the programmer.
I also believe there have been several updates to the emission software for each model year and the dealers are required to bring the truck up to the latest software by Ram at time of service. So this is why the truck was re-flashed by a dealer.
Jim W.
04-13-2013, 11:57 AM
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04-14-2013, 08:07 PM
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My truck was in the hop for the fifth time Dpf problem. They put a mey flash in my truck and under the hood was a decal with the flash id no. Then a few weeks I got tired of the same thing.
I hooked up my smarty and it would not work. I got it updated with a new download and it worked perfect. You need to purchas your smarty from someone that can help you with the problems. Do not shop for price.
I can not get over how much better it runs with a smary
I hooked up my smarty and it would not work. I got it updated with a new download and it worked perfect. You need to purchas your smarty from someone that can help you with the problems. Do not shop for price.
I can not get over how much better it runs with a smary
04-15-2013, 12:35 AM
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It's pretty sad that this is what it has come to. Another reason why I do all my own work and maintenance. Hypothetically could there not be a company building standalone ECMs offshore somewhere that only need say some EFI Live programming and locked by YOU. Boom, you've got a working, dealer-no- touchy ECM? I thought I saw a company building standalone ECMs for the 5.9s common rail trucks, called the zeus or something?
I wish I could go back in time and pick up a couple 93' 12 W250 ext cab 4x4 5 speeds brand new and stash them away so I could avoid crap like this
. Heck they were only what, 20-25k brand new back then? Sure beats the 70k msrp chrysler asks now!!
I wish I could go back in time and pick up a couple 93' 12 W250 ext cab 4x4 5 speeds brand new and stash them away so I could avoid crap like this
. Heck they were only what, 20-25k brand new back then? Sure beats the 70k msrp chrysler asks now!!
04-19-2013, 10:00 AM
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Curious on why you guys reflashing your trucks? I haven't had mine done ever.
I had a recall for emission equipment reflash, but told dodge they can forget about that one. I even told dodge to forget the hvac reflash. If its not broke, why reflash and break whats not broken.
If your trying to make dodge recall center happy forget about doing the delete in the first place.
I had a recall for emission equipment reflash, but told dodge they can forget about that one. I even told dodge to forget the hvac reflash. If its not broke, why reflash and break whats not broken.
If your trying to make dodge recall center happy forget about doing the delete in the first place.
04-19-2013, 06:51 PM
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Not sure on what smarty does currently. My truck has H&S blackmaxx on it version 6.8.21 I'm way out of being current for my 2010 for dodge and way out being current with H&S. As long as the truck works, not sure on how much I care to be up to date.
Not sure why there are 41 different 'tunes' versions on the H&S site for my black maxx
Not sure why there are 41 different 'tunes' versions on the H&S site for my black maxx
04-22-2013, 02:03 PM
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Over on CF there's post on the 4th Gen Powertrain forum, subject Rrt#12-019.
The guy took his truck in for an oil change and the dealer reflashed his ECM. He didn't know what it was and the short of the story is that it locks the bootloader in the ECM. Makes me think one won't be able to reload the delete tune.
"Secure Bootloader software
If the Engine Control Module (ECM) does not have a calibration installed, or has an unapproved calibration installed then the ECM will be in a Read Only Memory (ROM) boot state. The ECM will have power but the lack of approved software will not allow the vehicle to be started and driven. No further diagnostics of the ECM will be available at this time. This code will be cleared and issue resolved when the ECM is updated with the correct approved calibration.
Refer to the DealerCONNECT > TechCONNECT > Service Information for more detail. DTC U1601 set outside of the dealership with a no crank (towed in), no start condition caused by unauthorized (up-rate) software will NOT be covered under the terms of the warranty. DTC U1601 code may also be set when a legitimate flash is interrupted for any reason. "
On the CF posting, someone posted the TSB, so you can read it for yourself...
Reads as though Ram is getting in on the action of not allowing deletes even on prior model years....
The guy took his truck in for an oil change and the dealer reflashed his ECM. He didn't know what it was and the short of the story is that it locks the bootloader in the ECM. Makes me think one won't be able to reload the delete tune.
"Secure Bootloader software
If the Engine Control Module (ECM) does not have a calibration installed, or has an unapproved calibration installed then the ECM will be in a Read Only Memory (ROM) boot state. The ECM will have power but the lack of approved software will not allow the vehicle to be started and driven. No further diagnostics of the ECM will be available at this time. This code will be cleared and issue resolved when the ECM is updated with the correct approved calibration.
Refer to the DealerCONNECT > TechCONNECT > Service Information for more detail. DTC U1601 set outside of the dealership with a no crank (towed in), no start condition caused by unauthorized (up-rate) software will NOT be covered under the terms of the warranty. DTC U1601 code may also be set when a legitimate flash is interrupted for any reason. "
On the CF posting, someone posted the TSB, so you can read it for yourself...
Reads as though Ram is getting in on the action of not allowing deletes even on prior model years....
Mike
04-28-2013, 11:35 PM
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h&S says to return to stick when going to the dealer. They can then so whatever and when you pick up the truck, just apply your tune and life is good.
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06-04-2013, 08:37 AM
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I just went thru my transmission throwing codes and going into limp mode. Basically not shifting gears at all. I run the H&S overdrive. I thought that the transmission was done.
I took the truck to the dealer, they found that my line pressure sensor was NFG and replaced it under warranty. No BS about my H&S tuner or my OD programer. They told me that they work on H&S deleted trucks all the time and have no issues with the programmer.
Yes they bugged me to do the recall reflash, but I refused it. I get along fairly decently with my local dealer. I've bought 6-8 vehicles for my business over last 6 years.
I even offered to pay for the repair, but they told me it was done under warranty.
I took the truck to the dealer, they found that my line pressure sensor was NFG and replaced it under warranty. No BS about my H&S tuner or my OD programer. They told me that they work on H&S deleted trucks all the time and have no issues with the programmer.
Yes they bugged me to do the recall reflash, but I refused it. I get along fairly decently with my local dealer. I've bought 6-8 vehicles for my business over last 6 years.
I even offered to pay for the repair, but they told me it was done under warranty.
Hey Mike what dealer you use for getting work done.