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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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Wiper Blade Problem

The wiper blades on my 2003 Dodge p/u operate fine with one exception.....they park in the wrong position. They park in the center of the windshield. Any ideas for a "fix" would be appreciated. Two people I spoke with suggested it was expensive and a pita to repair. Thank you.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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I don't know off the top of my head, but if you shoot me a PM, I'll look it up in my dealer manual and see what they say.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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Found this in the 06 manual, not sure if it helps or not...


When the Off position of the multi-function switch control **** is selected, the EMIC sends an electronic wiper switch off message to the TIPM. If the wiper motor was operating at high speed, the TIPM immediately de-energizes the wiper motor high speed brush and energizes the low speed brush causing the wiper motor to return to low speed operation. Then one of two events will occurs, which depends upon the position of the wiper blades on the windshield at the moment that the control **** Off position is selected.
If the wiper blades are in the down position on the windshield when the Off position is selected, the park switch that is integral to the wiper motor is closed to ground and provides a hard wired park switch sense input to the TIPM.
The TIPM then de-energizes the wiper motor low speed brush and the wiper motor ceases to operate. If the wiper blades are not in the down position on the windshield at the moment the Off position is selected, the park switch is an open circuit and the TIPM keeps the wiper low speed brush energized, which causes the wiper motor to continue running at low speed until the wiper blades are in the down position on the windshield and the park switch input to the TIPM is again closed to ground.




TIPM = Totally Integrated Power Module is located in the engine compartment, near the battery
EMIC = ElectroMechanical Instrument Cluster is also referred to as the Cab Control
Node (CCN) in this vehicle. The EMIC/CCN is located in the instrument panel above the steering column opening, directly in front of the driver



There's 60 pages of diagnostics, PM me your email and I'll send ya a birthday present.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Synchiropus
The wiper blades on my 2003 Dodge p/u operate fine with one exception.....they park in the wrong position. They park in the center of the windshield. Any ideas for a "fix" would be appreciated. Two people I spoke with suggested it was expensive and a pita to repair. Thank you.
Did you by any chance recently remove the wiper arms and then turn the wipers on? If so, just maybe the wiper arms just need repositioning of the shafts.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Stan, I was thinking that, however, if that were the case, then the wiper would go off the windshield when they went to the full left position.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Check your pm's, I sent you a manual page.

From what I was reading in the manual, I don't really see what makes the wipers return to the down position, except for the relay killing power. That, or the multifunction switch is taking a poo.

We'll keep working on it.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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There are two wiper relays in the fuse box one of them may be a wiper park relay. Not sure but something to check.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Check your pm's, I sent you a manual page.

...t.

I'll email ya about 70 pages...
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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I was going to copy and paste all that stuff too, but I did not see anything specific...

Good looking out, Fisher. These dealer pubs are great, huh?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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You'd think that problem ould at least be mentioned in the manuals but I couldn't find it..?

Yes, they are good to have, the price was right too!
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Most of the time it parking is done by the motor itself. It sounds like the wiper motor is having issues.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Fisherguy
Found this in the 06 manual, not sure if it helps or not...


When the Off position of the multi-function switch control **** is selected, the EMIC sends an electronic wiper switch off message to the TIPM. If the wiper motor was operating at high speed, the TIPM immediately de-energizes the wiper motor high speed brush and energizes the low speed brush causing the wiper motor to return to low speed operation. Then one of two events will occurs, which depends upon the position of the wiper blades on the windshield at the moment that the control **** Off position is selected.
If the wiper blades are in the down position on the windshield when the Off position is selected, the park switch that is integral to the wiper motor is closed to ground and provides a hard wired park switch sense input to the TIPM.
The TIPM then de-energizes the wiper motor low speed brush and the wiper motor ceases to operate. If the wiper blades are not in the down position on the windshield at the moment the Off position is selected, the park switch is an open circuit and the TIPM keeps the wiper low speed brush energized, which causes the wiper motor to continue running at low speed until the wiper blades are in the down position on the windshield and the park switch input to the TIPM is again closed to ground.




TIPM = Totally Integrated Power Module is located in the engine compartment, near the battery
EMIC = ElectroMechanical Instrument Cluster is also referred to as the Cab Control
Node (CCN) in this vehicle. The EMIC/CCN is located in the instrument panel above the steering column opening, directly in front of the driver



There's 60 pages of diagnostics, PM me your email and I'll send ya a birthday present.
No TIPM on an '03
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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I sent him the pin out's for those relays, they are easy to check with a multimeter. Hopefully, that's what it is.

Bad comes to worse, he could always run a 12v supply to the motor with an in cab switch to get them back down. Or, he could move out here to Yuma with me, and not need them.
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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I have the same problem, and haven't been able to resolve I'm going to look for a used motor at a wrecker and see if that changes any thing
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