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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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oh how many miles on the truck bman? and is this the first problem?
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 02:44 AM
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Mine left me stranded last week with a dead key. I had full battery, all accesories, just no power to the starter. Waited 6...6 hours for DC roadside. Good thing I was at the local Blockbuster about 5 minutes from home. No warning, the truck runs super and then no start.Got it to dealer next day. Cleared one code and she started right up. Took about 2 minutes once they had the starscan hooked up. I got a flash for the too many shorts thing. Never had a problem with any of my trailer lights. They can reset it five times and then it must be replaced. I may have to carry a spare with the flash to be safe. Not cheap and no good at all if this happened out in the boonies with three horses in the trailer and no cell service. I am going to check if there is a work around the skim and tipm after the warrantee is gone. 21,200 miles and first issue with the truck.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by wreedz71
oh how many miles on the truck bman? and is this the first problem?

About 25K miles (38000km) The first problem (my fault) was a low battery condition which threw some codes, when it was -40*C I used the grid heater about 3 times b4 attempting to start thus the low batt. So I guess this is the first real problem which is more of an annoyance than anything else, it's still 100% drivable & hasn't left me stranded,.. just the GPS is doing wierd things ....
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mule Man
Mine left me stranded last week with a dead key. I had full battery, all accesories, just no power to the starter. Waited 6...6 hours for DC roadside. Good thing I was at the local Blockbuster about 5 minutes from home. No warning, the truck runs super and then no start.Got it to dealer next day. Cleared one code and she started right up. Took about 2 minutes once they had the starscan hooked up. I got a flash for the too many shorts thing. Never had a problem with any of my trailer lights. They can reset it five times and then it must be replaced. I may have to carry a spare with the flash to be safe. Not cheap and no good at all if this happened out in the boonies with three horses in the trailer and no cell service. I am going to check if there is a work around the skim and tipm after the warrantee is gone. 21,200 miles and first issue with the truck.
Same thing happened to my 06, but at least I was at a bar. Did they tell you how to fix it if you are out in the boonies?
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Same thing happened to my 06, but at least I was at a bar. Did they tell you how to fix it if you are out in the boonies?


aggreed i am in the middle of nowhere alot!
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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1.

TEST FOR INTERMITTENT CONDITION
Turn the ignition on.

NOTE: Ensure the IOD fuse is installed and battery voltage is between 10.0 and 16.0 volts.

NOTE: Ensure the scan tool is updated to the latest software.

NOTE: If the scan tool displays any error messages involving the CAN C Diagnostic circuits, diagnose and

repair the error message before proceeding. Refer to the Table of Contents.

NOTE: A loss of communication with the TIPM can cause the ECU View button on the scan tool to be inoperative

(not highlighted).

With the scan tool, attempt to select ECU view.

Can the scan tool communicate with the TIPM?

Yes

>> The no response condition is not present at this time. Using the wiring diagram/schematic as a guide,
inspect the wiring for chafed, pierced, pinched, and partially broken wires and the wiring harness connectors

for broken, bent, pushed out, and corroded terminals.

No

>> Go To 2
2.

FUSED B (+) CIRCUITS OPEN AT TIPM
Disconnect the scan tool from the DLC.

Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, and using the wiring diagram as a guide, check all Fused B (+)

circuits.

Does the test light illuminate brightly for each circuit?

Yes

>> Go To 3
No

>> Repair the Fused B(+) circuit that did not light the test light for an open or short.
Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL

MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE)

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ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS 8E - 167
3.

FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT CIRCUITS OPEN AT TIPM
Turn the ignition on.

Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, and using the wiring diagram as a guide, check each Fused Ignition

Switch Output circuit.

Does the test light illuminate brightly for each circuit?

Yes

>> Go To 4
No

>> Repair the Fused Ignition Switch Output circuit that did not light the test light for an open.
Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL

MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE)

4.

GROUND CIRCUITS OPEN AT TIPM
Turn the ignition off.

Using a 12-volt test light connected to 12-volts, and using the wiring diagram as a guide, check all ground circuits.

Does the test light illuminate brightly on each circuit?

Yes

>> Go To 5
No

>> Repair the ground circuit that did not light the test light for an open.
Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL

MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE)

5.

CHECK FOR (D52) CAN C DIAGNOSTIC (+) CIRCUIT OPEN AT DLC
Disconnect the TIPM C6 harness connector.

Measure the resistance on the D52 CAN C Diagnostic (+) circuit

between the TIPM C6 harness connector and the DLC

Is the resistance above 10 ohms?

Yes

>> Repair the D52 CAN C Diagnostic (+) circuit for an open.
Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 -

ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES -

STANDARD PROCEDURE)

No

>> Go To 6
8E - 168 ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS

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CHECK FOR (D51) CAN C DIAGNOSTIC (-) CIRCUIT OPEN AT DLC
Measure the resistance on the D51 CAN C Diagnostic (-) circuit

between the TIPM C6 harness connector and the DLC

Is the resistance above 10 ohms?

Yes

>> Repair the D51 CAN C Diagnostic (-) circuit for an open.
Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 -

ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES -

STANDARD PROCEDURE)

No

>> Go To 7
7.

CHECK FOR CAN C DIAGNOSTIC CIRCUITS SHORTED TOGETHER
Measure the resistance between the (D52) CAN C Diagnostic (+) circuit

and the (D51) CAN C Diagnostic (-) circuit at the TIPM C6 harness connector.

Is the resistance below 100.0 ohms?

Yes

>> Repair the (D52) CAN C Diagnostic (+) circuit for a short to
the (D51) CAN C Diagnostic (-) circuit.

Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST – VER 1. (Refer to 8

- ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES -

STANDARD PROCEDURE).

No

>> Replace the Totally Integrated Power Module in accordance
with the service information.

Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST – VER 1. (Refer to 8

- ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES -

STANDARD PROCEDURE).

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ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS 8E - 169
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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well the dealer replaced the tipm and no the wipers are working again.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Sorry, I actually thought you were originally asking about wipers. (Dumb a$$ me). I have had my alarm go off for no apparent reason. No matter what I have done, it still honked. I had to let it time out after 3 min. before it stopped honking.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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i feel dumb, but am i the only one that doesnt know what tipm means? i'm new around here and looking foward to learning a bunch of new things when it comes to my truck. but i'm lost. (tipm)
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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tipm = totally integrated power module

fancy fuse box with a computer in it now and no more realys all computer controlled.

my truck has 4000 miles on it and it has been replaced once so far....
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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Apparently we should start a club.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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a club for what? you dont have a tipm anabelle.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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see (a dumb a$$ club).
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by farbonciber
i feel dumb, but am i the only one that doesnt know what tipm means? i'm new around here and looking foward to learning a bunch of new things when it comes to my truck. but i'm lost. (tipm)

you need to add your truck info to your signature.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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ok, thanks... that makes sence with what people are saying. i've had no problems @ 17000 miles. sorry but i dont wanna be apart of your timp club.
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