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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Unhappy put this one on for size!!!

how many of your know how to bypass a dodge security system???? someone does because they stole my truck at 4 in the morning!!!!! no broken glass nothing..when a dealer tells you that the trucks need the sentry key to start..tell them to edit...i only had the truck for just over a year!!! edit!!! I'm so edit.!!!second security system i know of this happening too! now i get to watch my insurance company stiff me big time!

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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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wow, that sucks, i know what your feeling, had 2 truck stolen from me.
i too got the big stiff one from the insurance company, but twice!!!!
anyway, just wanted to say, don't matter what system you got, the club, back up battery siren, etc, if they want it, they will take it, be it broken glass, made up keys, flat bed etc.
be there, done that, spent thousands on security systems, bout the only good one is some thing like low jack, a GPS type system that they can track it's where abouts, can track it while in motion, while being stripped etc.
might want to look into that type for the next time, because insurance won't like you anymore.
good luck
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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A kill switch is better than Dodges security system because you would be the only one to know about it . A thief can find out all he needs to know about one Dodge system and pretty much steal any Dodge .
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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I liked the idea of placing your transfer case in neutral. Sometimes its the simple little things that a thief will overlook while he is in a hurry and he will just give up.
Example (Funny story) We had a imate escape and during his escape he did not think about the fact that he put his foot on the brake when he had started the van. During his "departure" we had him blocked in on a road. He turned into a field to turn around. He got stuck in a mud hole and was rocking the vehicle between reverse and drive trying to get out. He accidentally put the vehicle in park and could not get it out. He had been in jail so long he was not familiar with the fact that he had to put his foot on the brake to get the vehicle out of park. He thought he had torn the trans out of the vehicle!!!! End result........CAPTURE and a little laugh for the LE guys!!!
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Really sucks, hang 'em when you catch 'em.

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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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I suggest you get Chrysler to find out who reissued a key for your truck.
It happened up here a few times.
A guy gets the VIN, then learns who owns it by looking in the mailbox and then goes to a dealer and says they need a new key with all the info they need to get one.

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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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I've come to learn that nothing is ever secure enough. Thant really sucks!! I had one of my trucks broken into last week & ransacked while it sat in my employees driveway in a nice neighborhood. Luckily they caught the guy the same night and returned all the property. Thieves will always find a way around security. Their livelyhood depends on it. Sad but true. Good luck
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Scotty
I suggest you get Chrysler to find out who reissued a key for your truck.
It happened up here a few times.
A guy gets the VIN, then learns who owns it by looking in the mailbox and then goes to a dealer and says they need a new key with all the info they need to get one.

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Dealers are pretty much aware of that now, so it's probably an inside job of some sort, or they just towed it. I keep the VIN covered with a small piece of cardboard even thought it's supposed to be kept visible.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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no, i know they didnt tow it...i herd it drive away...and the only reason i didnt get up is b/c my neighbor has the same loud exhaust on his new dodge diesel, so I thought it was him leaving in the morning....but NO..it was my truck.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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A guy gets the VIN, then learns who owns it by looking in the mailbox and then goes to a dealer and says they need a new key with all the info they need to get one.
We are aware of this and there are precautions that we and Chrysler must tke when giving out a key code. Including proof of ownership as well as picture ID. Without both you will not get a code. To address the quote from scotty above, even if some one got a key from the dealer it impossible for that key to be programmed unless the truck is 1 at the dealer for them to programm it or 2 if the thief already has two keys that are programmed and then he can program it himself, in which case he would not need to have gotten it from the dealer. It sucks that your truck was stolen, I hope they get it back for you and they hang them from their bells when they do.

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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TNDODGE
I liked the idea of placing your transfer case in neutral. Sometimes its the simple little things that a thief will overlook while he is in a hurry and he will just give up.
Example (Funny story) We had a imate escape and during his escape he did not think about the fact that he put his foot on the brake when he had started the van. During his "departure" we had him blocked in on a road. He turned into a field to turn around. He got stuck in a mud hole and was rocking the vehicle between reverse and drive trying to get out. He accidentally put the vehicle in park and could not get it out. He had been in jail so long he was not familiar with the fact that he had to put his foot on the brake to get the vehicle out of park. He thought he had torn the trans out of the vehicle!!!! End result........CAPTURE and a little laugh for the LE guys!!!

Sounds like a good idea to put transfer case in neutral. How do you get back to 2wd without heavy grind?
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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On my 2 Dakotas, when I took them to work (I am a Firefighter in Baltimore City, MD), especially with the plow and salt spreaders on, I would remove the starter/ignition relay from the electrical box under the hood.....one time, my 1995 was broken into and something was forced into the ignition....but the truck was still there when I got off work....cost me a new window and an ignition switch, but truck did not get stolen. I know my newer trucks have the same thing, but I understand the '06's don't have the relays and fuses in the electrical distribution center under the hood.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pull U 2
Coded keys do nothing to stop someone from hotwiring a vehicle. If it's wanted bad enough, it's GONE. Nothing you can do to stop it, slow them down yes, stop 'em NO!!!!
Not true...The coded key works in conjunction with the engine computer, if the correct key is not recognized then the computer does not allow engine operation (ie fuel injector opertation, etc.) There is no way to bypass the immobilizer control unit while hotwiring to send the correct signal to the engine computer. It is possible however to build an electronic box to scan the various frequencies used by a manufacturer and hold it to the igntion key area while using a non coded key or screwdriver and fool the immobilizer control unit into thinking the correct key has been used.

There are two likely possibilities, on is that the thief used an electronic gadget to fool the immobilizer system...or the second is the one that I see extremely ften at my shop...the customer has left a coded key that is fully functional for the car in the glove box or center console and the thief simple opens the glovebox/center console and uses the key

I know it sounds stupid but it is amazing how many customers cars I get in to change pollen filters or do other interior work only to have to remove the glovebox, while removing there is an amazingly stupid amount of customers who have a key for the very same car in the glove box...an immoblizer system is only slightly effective if a non coded key or tool is used. The other scenario is when customer buy those magnetic hidden key boxes that you are supposed to put under a bumper or frame or something...again some people put a good immobilizer key in these and don't hide them well. It is funny when you put a car in the air and use an air impact chisel or even impact gun on it and a hidden key box falls out from somewhere...what do you tell the customer? Here sir, this fell out from under your car...and I don't want to re-hide it for you. Thieves know the common areas to quickly look for these hidden key boxes as well.

I am not saying that in this case there was a key left in the truck...but it is more common than most people think!
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 04 SO CA
Sounds like a good idea to put transfer case in neutral. How do you get back to 2wd without heavy grind?
I do like the transfer case idea as well as pulling a relay. It is simple and most thiefs are in too much of a hurry to think real well. To prevent grinding you can always put the transfer case back into 2wd before starting the vehicle.
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