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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Question kerosene??

Can we burn kerosene in these 3rd gens? I know a guy who has a 99 who burns kerosene every chance he gets to fill up. saw it the other day for 8 cents cheaper than diesel. Just wondering.
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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I wouldn't do it. If you do it add several quarts of non detergent motor oil to the tank also. But that would kill any cost savings by going to kerosene.

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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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It'll burn, but you get worse milage so there is no cost savings.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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kerosene has literally no lubrication in it (I've learned way too much over fuel quality over the last year up in the North where they tend to run #1 DFA, which is essentially Jet A or kerosene) Cummins has standards published which states that #1 Diesel fuel is acceptable as an emergency fuel, but only if it meets lubricity requirements. Unfortunately, the only way to test if fuel meets the lubricity requirements is to perform a $400 test, which is available only at selected labs throughout the country (we send ours to Texas). Specs are:

Minimum 3100 gms using SLBOCLE test; or
Maximum 49 microns using the HFRR test

If you want to replace your fuel pump 4x a year, run kerosene. Otherwise, us a good quality fuel.

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Old May 16, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Right, good quality fuel is best, but you cannot find any anymore. Increase lubricity as priority.

I just tried Milligans Bio Diesel Fuel Conditioner and by the end of the first tank the tic/knock has gone away and is running very smooth. Going to try it for another couple of tanks to see if it is just a fluke or is the real thing. Using Kleen, MMO, Howes, etc never got this quiet.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by AaronT

I just tried Milligans Bio Diesel Fuel Conditioner and by the end of the first tank the tic/knock has gone away and is running very smooth. Going to try it for another couple of tanks to see if it is just a fluke or is the real thing. Using Kleen, MMO, Howes, etc never got this quiet.
Please tell me more. Where do you get this Milligans?
I did a google but didn't come up with anything. What does this claim to do?
are you running this in bio, if so what blend? How long have you had the tic/knock?
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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I have only seen it at one truck stop so far and thought I would try it. It cost me $16.00 Canadian (around $12.50 US) for a litre and treats 260 US gallons. If it continues to prove it's effectiveness I will try for larger quantity. Like I said I am impressed so far.

Here is url http://www.milliganbiotech.com.

No, I am not trolling and not associated with it.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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I put a 1/2 quart of 30wt non-detergent motor oil in at every fillup just to help combat low lubricity problems with fuel. Been doing this since day 1.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by Mark Thomas
I put a 1/2 quart of 30wt non-detergent motor oil in at every fillup just to help combat low lubricity problems with fuel. Been doing this since day 1.
It's might be a cost effective way to increase lubricity, but one that increases "bad" emissions. You're better off using a lubricity additive that was created for this particular purpose.

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Old May 20, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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I don't think 1/2 qt of motor oil is going to increase the emissions on a diesel very much. I'm also using 1/2 qt of ND30w with 1/2 qt of Power Service.

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Old May 20, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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If only a half quart of non detergent 30 weight oil is used in a full tank of fuel I would doubt seriously that being enough to increase emissions . Just my 1.5 cent
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Old May 20, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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I don't think 1/2 qt of motor oil..... I would doubt seriously.....
Well, assuming that one refills at 600 miles (30 gallons @ 20 MPG), that's the same as the engine consuming 1 quart of oil every 1200 miles. Does that affect emissions? Would one be able to detect that level of oil consumption as blue smoke out the tailpipe?

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Old May 20, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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I have yet to see any smoke. I even tried 1 qt and still no smoke.
Now a gallon, maybe....

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Old May 20, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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A lot of the engine changes the part few years have been oriented towards decreasing emissions, i.e. NOx, CO, and PM (Nitrous oxides, carbon monoxide, and particulate matter -- the dark stuff). Yes, adding motor oil to your fuel oil would cause an increase in emissions (in particular PM). How much? . . . who knows.

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Old May 20, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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as a total outsider (psd owner ) , Try stanadyne additive or Fppf
(www.kennedydiesel.com )
They both do a good job of emulsifying water and add lubricity to fuel. John
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