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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Water Injection is your friend

First, Happy New Year to everyone. This year, my plan is to recommend water injection to anyone who mods their CR engines. Heavily Bombed? Better get that water system ordered sooner rather than later.

This is by far the least expensive way to drop those cylinder temps.

Of course cams, and proper airflow is an important part of life in a high powered CR engine as well, but if you have a short budget and cant swing a new camshaft , good singles or twin turbos right now......think long and hard about water.

EGT is not the same thing it used to be in the 12's and VP 24's. Gage readings indicate much less about what is happening long before the exhaust valve ever opens in the CR than it did back then.

Mild methanol mixtures are a great idea too. Nothing crazy though.

After several years of hard work on the CR and the damage associated with high power density in these engines I aint kiddin' when I say watch those temps.

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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Who makes a good water injection kit?
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Good to hear from Don M on this subject!

Glad i bought a stage 2 snow kit. It should be installed this week....I plan to run nothing but Snow's water/meth mix. No custom mixes for me.

I have heard to buy nothing but the Snow kit. They use nylon in their lines while some other companies don't. Methanol can eat rubber but not nylon supposedly.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Good to hear from Don M on this subject!

Glad i bought a stage 2 snow kit. It should be installed this week....I plan to run nothing but Snow's water/meth mix. No custom mixes for me.

I have heard to buy nothing but the Snow kit. They use nylon in their lines while some other companies don't. Methanol can eat rubber but not nylon supposedly.
Those pics of that motor are scaring the crap out of me..... I need to get my EGTs down...
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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Those pics of that motor are scaring the crap out of me..... I need to get my EGTs down...
what pics?

get a turbo....I finally touched 1050* after lugging for a half mile! otherwise I couldn't touch anything over 1000*
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Really now? That's interesting. Maybe I should be looking at a new turbo. I need to see how your's spools though and smoke control cause right now I gotta watch myself otherwise I cover intersections.

Don, what's your take on water in the VP trucks? I'm probably gonna order mine after I get studs put in.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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How is this kit? http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmai...d=dieselstage3

Seems like a really nice setup, how do their kits compare to the Snow kits?
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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How is this kit? http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmai...d=dieselstage3

Seems like a really nice setup, how do their kits compare to the Snow kits?
here is the Snow equivalent:
http://www.snowperformance.net/prodd...p?prod=auto165

this is what I ordered for almost $100 less than what they advertise
http://www.snowperformance.net/prodd...asp?prod=49002

good info:
http://www.snowperformance.net/default.asp
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Where did you buy from?
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Don M
First, Happy New Year to everyone. This year, my plan is to recommend water injection to anyone who mods their CR engines. Heavily Bombed? Better get that water system ordered sooner rather than later.

This is by far the least expensive way to drop those cylinder temps.

Of course cams, and proper airflow is an important part of life in a high powered CR engine as well, but if you have a short budget and cant swing a new camshaft , good singles or twin turbos right now......think long and hard about water.

EGT is not the same thing it used to be in the 12's and VP 24's. Gage readings indicate much less about what is happening long before the exhaust valve ever opens in the CR than it did back then.

Mild methanol mixtures are a great idea too. Nothing crazy though.

After several years of hard work on the CR and the damage associated with high power density in these engines I aint kiddin' when I say watch those temps.

Don~
I agree!! Water really cools things down with a touch of meth.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Where did you buy from?
Industrial Injection....but notice I bought a ton of things at once, probably got a discount...not sure though. Give them a call and see what they quote you.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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I'm thinking about the snow stage II, is the install easy?
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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I fabricated a 2-stage, 2-jet water/meth system at the shop. The 10 gallon SS tank w/level sensor and vent mounts where the muffler used to be, and there's a return bypass to prevent the IP from cycling excessively.

The jets are threaded into the intake manifold, and both solenoids and all of the Hobbs switches are mounted close by.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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You can also tap into the stock washer fluid tank.
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