Toyo vs Nitto
Rod K
newb, but looking at the same tires. I was looking also at 33's vs the 34's.
Still have the stock Mich A/S and needed some better traction in the Snow, snow/ice, ice, bare ground that we get here.
I was thinking possibly the Nitto's since would assume that with softer compound would do better. If someone has opinion, would appriciate it.
Can get the Nitto's, not the Toyos, through Discount Tire which has been really great to me in the past.
newb, but looking at the same tires. I was looking also at 33's vs the 34's.
Still have the stock Mich A/S and needed some better traction in the Snow, snow/ice, ice, bare ground that we get here.
I was thinking possibly the Nitto's since would assume that with softer compound would do better. If someone has opinion, would appriciate it.
Can get the Nitto's, not the Toyos, through Discount Tire which has been really great to me in the past.
Last edited by RobCRert; Feb 8, 2008 at 04:38 PM. Reason: Typos
Where is everyone getting the idea that the 285/75R17 Toyo's are a 34.8" (or 35" to round it) tall tire? Toyo's website lists the tire at 33.8" tall and even puts (34x11.50R17) under the metric sizing. I have also input the tire size into a tire size calculator I have and it confirms 33.8" height. I like the idea of a skinnier tire for improved fuel mileage as well as having an "E" rated tire, but I flat out LOVE the look of my true 35" 325/70R17 Nitto's on the truck. I would be afraid of being disappointed in the look of the truck with the 285/75R17 tires once I had them on...
If Nitto really IS coming out with an "E" rated 325/70R17 Terra Grappler, you can bet the bank that will be my next set of tires. I only have 7000 or so miles on my current Terra Grapplers and they show 0 wear so far. Hopefully it will be some time before I am in the tire market again, but it is never too early to do your homework...
If Nitto really IS coming out with an "E" rated 325/70R17 Terra Grappler, you can bet the bank that will be my next set of tires. I only have 7000 or so miles on my current Terra Grapplers and they show 0 wear so far. Hopefully it will be some time before I am in the tire market again, but it is never too early to do your homework...
Sorry for the hijack but I thought some might find this interesting.
I switched from 35" Toyos to 35" Yokohama ATS's and seem to be getting way better traction and wear.
Since switching to Yoko's I've noticed a few things.
While I can still get three solid gears of rubber the truck is hooking hard all the way. I can no longer do rolling burnouts above 40Mph. Braking on wet roads is awesome.
I murdered a set of Toyo muds in under 3000 miles (lots of street racing). I have 10,000 miles on the Yoko's and they are almost as good as new.
FWIW I probably have 700 Hp so burn tires quicker than most.
The only potential downside is a D rating.
I switched from 35" Toyos to 35" Yokohama ATS's and seem to be getting way better traction and wear.
Since switching to Yoko's I've noticed a few things.
While I can still get three solid gears of rubber the truck is hooking hard all the way. I can no longer do rolling burnouts above 40Mph. Braking on wet roads is awesome.
I murdered a set of Toyo muds in under 3000 miles (lots of street racing). I have 10,000 miles on the Yoko's and they are almost as good as new.
FWIW I probably have 700 Hp so burn tires quicker than most.
The only potential downside is a D rating.
Last edited by Snapoff; Feb 10, 2008 at 04:07 AM. Reason: Spelling
I bought some of the Nitto Dune Grapplers just because I couldnt get the size I needed in the Terra Grapplers at the exact time. So far the dune grapplers have been wearing great, I have a buddy who went with a set of terra grapplers the day before I put my dune grapplers on and his are getting pretty worn. He has less miles on his terra grapplers but the problem could be in driving habbits.
I put a set of "Nitto Dura Grappler Highway Terrain" (285-70-17) on my truck several months ago and now have about 12K miles on them. The Nitto's seem to be wearing great, have good traction for a highway tire, and provide a good ride. I bought them because I wanted extra weight capacity for my heavy fifth-wheel camper (15K with approx 3.5K pin weight) and I wanted to keep the height as close to stock as possible. So far, I have no complaints.
I've had the Nitto Terra Grapplers and wore the tread all the way down to nothing within 27k. I ended that deal getting a partial credit on a diffrent set of tires,Michilens,but now I'm running Toyos.
285/75/17E Toyo M/T or A/T will be my next tire. They wear better than Nitto. Right now toyo doesn't advertise the AT but I've seen pics of our trucks with them on it. The AT looked goofy skinny at that height and that's why I believe I'll go with the MT. For "controlled" street driving, 40k is not out of the question on an MT and 60K isn't out of the question for an AT. I had a set of 35/12.5/20E nitto muds and sold the tires and the wheels at 12k b/c it hurt my feelings every time I got out of the truck seeing how fast they were wearing. My .02
You will not, and I repeat you will not get above 45k miles with a set of TOYO 285 75 17 A/T E range. Me and 2 of my friends put them on our trucks. I have babied them. Complete rotate and balance every 7k miles because it was free and came with the tires when I purchased them. I have not done burnouts with them or even hard spun them on the pavement. I am completely honest in the fact that I have taken good care of this set and they are slap worn out, bald as a babies but, not worth selling to the used tire guys at 42k miles. My other 2 buddies didn't get 40k out of there set and they treated their tires harder than I did. I absolutley abused the stock BFG Rugged Trails that came on the truck and got 58k miles out of them. Nittos wear worse than the TOYOs. They didn't last 36k miles on my F-250
I am thinking of the Dura Grapplers for my next set or go back to the BFG Rugged trail. I wish they came in a 285 instead of a 265.
I am thinking of the Dura Grapplers for my next set or go back to the BFG Rugged trail. I wish they came in a 285 instead of a 265.
I believe I am allowed to say this, bear with me for the intro, as I am not a sponsor of the site (yet) so I cannot talk about the products that my company makes but I should be able to give a run down on Nitto and Toyo.
Toyo rubber owns many companies relating to rubber products throughout the world. "duh" Nitto has been around for about 12 years or so as a smaller independent UHP tire company. When Toyo noticed Nittos growth in the aftermarket segment of the industry, they signed over ownership of the company keeping all old employees including tech and management.
Now toyo tires and nitto tires are competitive "sister" companies utilizing the same manufacturing facilities. One plant in White GA and another in Japan somewhere.
2 different offices within a block of one another.
Hope this helps give a little background on the companies, if anyone was interested. ???
Toyo rubber owns many companies relating to rubber products throughout the world. "duh" Nitto has been around for about 12 years or so as a smaller independent UHP tire company. When Toyo noticed Nittos growth in the aftermarket segment of the industry, they signed over ownership of the company keeping all old employees including tech and management.
Now toyo tires and nitto tires are competitive "sister" companies utilizing the same manufacturing facilities. One plant in White GA and another in Japan somewhere.
2 different offices within a block of one another.
Hope this helps give a little background on the companies, if anyone was interested. ???


